It’s also that none of the worst offenders are in the topshot discord and wouldn’t be allowed to behave like this.
I think forum drama was brought up one time that i remember and it was squashed immediately.
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I’m not gonna cosign any of the complaints that were raised, but isn’t PM, like, the exact place that we should want people complaining about individual posters? I get there’s the whole “say it to my face” mentality, and tbh if someone had an issue with me I’d hope they’d address me personally because I’d prefer to resolve it. But it’s clear that some of the relationships had devolved past that point, so, like… kudos for making it primarily within PMs and not derailing the forum even further?
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They talked about the chat sometimes. It seemed like a dozen of them or so would all pile on at once. So I always assumed they would get worked up in chat then head into the FAQ thread or whatever and pile on. But I might have just been paranoid.
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Exactly. It’s a pretty large group that has remained active and respectful for 6 months across a broad range of topics. I thought at first it was kind of silly to get a whole new chat for it, but it has clearly been a huge success while UP has struggled over the same period.
Your insanely high emotional IQ “dooms” you to being a centrist in these matters.
Tough spot to be in with the acceleration of the internet age.
I get your angst since you are an unofficial mod on this forum.
It’s hard to articulate how much you mean to this place. You were kind to me when I revealed my current life status which rendered me a scourge on this board in many ways.
At least once a week when I’m petting my dog I think of your little guy who’s with the angels/earth right now.
If there’s anything I can do to be a friend do not hesitate to ask.
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I will respond to that more tomorrow. But for now:
Please say Hi to Mrs T and my apologies if she is not happy with you being here. I am going to do my best to not engage with you today anymore. I really feel for her.
It’s nothing to be ashamed of, I think Killary and Pete would be genuinely impressed with the operation that was pulled off.
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Show me where I have defended what jmakin did?
No offense but it seems like you are using this as a way the deflect from the substance and intentions in the PMs. I wish I had never seen them.
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Ggoreo’s approach to the PMs is exactly the right approach. The participants within that thread should determine what, if any, of it remains public. It was their private messages and it should have never been shared.
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This is exactly what is happening.
Fwiw I fast forwarded past 99% of those messages, I didn’t have time to read 1200 PMs. Maybe got the first 10 and newest 10 for context when I saw a new thread was “made.”
Lots to unpack here. All of this is so disappointing and reminds me why I had sworn off these sort of messageboards for years. This place was such a good source of COVID info, among other things. Given the people involved, I hoped it would be different. Oh well. Thanks to everyone who tried to contribute in good faith.
My substance in the pm thread was something I had no issue saying to the poster on the forum and my intentions were to pass a bit of time.
I did say we should be aiming to stay part of the main forum with new mods and new way of moderating.
Shoot me.
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It doesn’t matter. The issue is that it is good when it is the same. The thread talk and PMs. I mean… if someone annoys me to the level that I am going to talk shit about them in PMs , then you can be sure that I communicate it publicly to the face of the person in pretty much the same way. I believe that it is pretty healthy for social interaction and more important for my psyche.
This. There are two distinct issues here.
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I don’t agree with an admin reading the PM or making it public. But once I knew there was a 50 person PM thread, I’d sure be initiating a conversation about it in public and asking what’s going on.
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To the posters itt screaming: THIS WAS A PRIVATE PM. Yeah. And some of you posted some lame Mean Girls BS in it. Personally I’d be more ashamed then screaming about my private group chat being outed.
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This who me fairytale can’t be refuted without access to the thread.
I like jmakin as a person and a poster, but what he did violated his responsibilities as a forum administrator. I also think there are mitigating circumstances here since he was the target of an orchestrated campaign with a goal – at the very least – of making him upset. I don’t think he should be permabanned, but I think a temp ban would be appropriate.
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Some were saying that. Others were cheering on some type of increasing anger score.
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Alright, that’s good to hear, I envy you in a way if you have the ability to time a lapse in having a conscience right after you were a part of some truly shady shit.
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And why did this group devolve into mean girls shit basically instantly? There really should be some introspection here by other people. You’ve been about the only one to own anything here and I respect that.
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I can’t see the thread, was there an outcry when Sabo again took a shot at jmakin’s mental health? Link to the chastisement he received, thanks.