Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Call a doctor, try to do a video consultation or talk over the phone. The chest tightness is a valid thing to be concerned about these days, and fever was not present in 100% of the severe cases in China based on the data. The problem is 99% of American docs will not know that fact. Are you experiencing shortness of breath? If not, I would not want to go into an office right now. If you’re experiencing shortness of breath, I’d try to get an appointment or do a drive through test if there are some in your area.

Obviously I’m more on the concerned side than most here, FWIW.

Agreed, I’ve told a few people this and they act like I’m nuts. People don’t know what we’re in for.

Can’t have 2-3 people without it coming in and getting it while staying with their loved ones. Then you just double the strain on the system, basically.

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womp womp

Just to reassure me that I made the right decision canceling our trip. Also, we’re guaranteed to get the haute route tour money refunded now, so I guess we’ll be sitting around here for our 20th anniversary. :frowning:

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I have space I could grow some stuff, and I’ve thought about doing it. It’s another one of those be silly now vs decide too late decisions. I think the risk of the supply chains breaking down on enough foods to cause starvation in the US is probably low, but the penalty for being wrong is severe.

But I also feel like if it happens, we’ll be able to do stuff locally/regionally to get enough food to keep people alive.

Also a huge fuck you to the Washington Post for having the paywall up on an article about potential FOOD SHORTAGES. Fuck off to your bunker, Bezos.

The decision was made for you.

You can’t get over there and even if you could, you wouldn’t be able to do anything and would have a tough time getting back.

Just get any refunds you can and have a kick ass 21st anniversary trip.

To ad to the WAAACIUCAUF category:

The girl I’m dating’s sister is a Trump supporting doctor. As of yesterday she still thought the virus was a joke, and thought the only thing concerning was the ridiculousness of people’s reactions. The screen shots in the conversation would have been hilarious if not for the Cat 12 hurricane bearing down on us.

Can I be the first to get a WAAACIUCAUF badge?

That’s probably to eat comfortably. How much to eat enough to not die?

Regardless, we’d probably be talking about trying to make it like a month without food, not forever. Growing it won’t be the solution, but I’m not posting it on the open Internet. We may need a non-indexed forum in a month to put our brainpower together if it gets that bad.

Enjoy your month staring at the black screen (assuming you’re as lazy as the average American).

I drove through my local bar restaurant area in LA. Restaurants were full. You wouldn’t know it from any other Friday night.

I thought well the youngs are out living it up, then looked closer. Way more grey heads than not - everywhere I saw. Trumpists are going to bring this whole thing down and blame liberals the whole way down.

Any scenario that requires growing your own food is an end-times situation where all notions of preparation are laughably inadequate. Your survival odds will be largely dictated by chance and your ability to grow vegetables won’t improve them.

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Yeah I’m definitely not sweating the supply chain too much when trump just got up there to reassure big business. The truck drivers and the cashiers will all get screwed but the spice will flow imo

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If they die, they die

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They don’t go quietly though. They demand their leader take drastic steps. Immigrants are using up all the ventilators! Just use your imagination a little and imagine when one of these people can’t get a ventilator and sees a bunch of brown people hooked up to them.

Time for death camps for illegals basically. We tried to deport them. We tried to get them to leave. There is really only one final solution left.

Just a few days ago i went to the store and the only thing really noticeable was some of the can goods. I went tonight and wow the place was pillaged. No tp in sight and a lot of other things gone.

Also i shop at night after work a lot and usually there might be a few people but not tonight. There had to be about thirty in there.

Not only that when i go there will be at least six or so people stocking shelve. But nope one guy. I use to work there stocking so i know him and asked. He said the truck was not coming tonight. He also said a lot of people are coming from the two bigger cities near us, about fifty miles away. People are freaking…

Be nice to have some component leadership.

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@LFS,

“chest tightness” is no joke of a symptom for an old man like you - nothing to do with coronavirus.

There were four confirmed cases within one mile being treated at one of three hospitals in that radius. Then I go inside and people are drinking from the punch bowl and licking door handles. I’m in frequent contact with family members over 65 with underlying health conditions.

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Liquor stores in LA seem to have plenty of TP. Although they might be price gouging. I didn’t check the price.

I just hit a liquor store, drug store, Trader Joes and a grocery store. I was still able to get just about everything I wanted. Luckily I seem to like all the less popular stuff. I already stocked up on like 40 cans of the good tuna. Hah - suckers! I wish I’d bought more of the meat in a tube though - carne asada and pollo whatever it’s called. I’m going back tomorrow to see if they get more of that.

I was very pleased to see tons of pre-made salad. I’m going to try to live on that as much as possible and get serious about the diet while I’m working from home. I usually lose weight when I work from home. But I also usually don’t have 3 months worth of food in the house.

Right now my strategy is to have 3 months of anything it might annoy me to be without. 3 months w/o water or electricity might be a stretch. But we’re pretty much at Mad Max levels if that happens.

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This week, US health authorities citing Chinese data said 80 percent of cases have been mild, while the remaining serious cases that required hospitalization affected mainly people over 60 and those with conditions like diabetes, heart disease or lung disease.

  • The party -

Elizabeth Schneider first began experiencing flu-like symptoms on February 25, three days after going to a party that was later identified as the place where at least five other people also got infected.

“I woke up and I was feeling tired, but it was nothing more than what you normally feel when you have to get up and go to work, and I had been very busy the previous weekend,” she told AFP in an interview Wednesday.

By midday, however, she felt a headache coming on, along with a fever and body aches. She decided to leave the office of the biotechnology company where she works as a marketing manager, and went home.

After waking up from a nap, Schneider found she had a high temperature, which peaked at 103 degrees Fahrenheit that night (39.4 Celsius).

“And at that point, I started to shiver uncontrollably, and I was getting the chills and getting tingling in my extremities, so that was a little concerning,” she said.

She turned to over-the-counter flu medications to treat the symptoms and called a friend to be on standby in case she needed to be taken to an emergency room – but the fever began to recede in the coming days.

Schneider had been following news reports about the novel coronavirus. The first US case was detected in Washington in late January.

The state has since gone on to become the epicenter of the disease in the country, with more than 260 cases and at least two dozen deaths. Nationwide, there have been more than 1,100 cases and 30 deaths.

Because she didn’t have the most common symptoms like a cough or shortness of breath, “I thought, okay, well that’s definitely why I don’t have coronavirus,” said Schneider.

She had gotten a flu shot but assumed her illness was a different strain. A visit to the doctor would only result in her being asked to go home, rest and drink plenty of fluids.

  • ‘Pleasantly surprised’ -

A few days later, however, she discovered through a friend’s Facebook post that several people from the party had all developed similar symptoms, and she began to get more suspicious.

Several of these people went to their doctors, where they were found to be negative for the flu, but they were not offered coronavirus tests because they too were not coughing or having breathing trouble.

Knowing that she would also likely be turned down for the test, she decided to enroll in a research program called the Seattle Flu Study, hoping it might provide an answer. The team behind the study sent her a nasal swab kit, which she mailed back and waited several more days.

“I finally got a phone call from one of the research coordinators on Saturday (March 7), telling me that ‘You have tested positive for COVID-19,’” she said.

“I was a little bit pleasantly surprised, because I thought it was a little bit cool,” Schneider admitted, laughing, though her mother cried when she told her.

“Granted, I probably would not have felt that way if I was severely ill,” she said. “But from a scientific curiosity perspective, I thought it was very interesting. And also the fact that I finally got confirmation that that’s what I had.”

By this time, her symptoms had already subsided, and she was told by local health authorities to remain at home for at least seven days after the onset of symptoms or 72 hours after they subsided.

It’s now been a week since she’s felt better. She has started going out for errands but is still avoiding large gatherings and continuing to work from home.

Schneider said she hoped her example, which will probably be typical of the high majority of cases, could comfort others.

“The message is don’t panic,” said Schneider. “If you think that you have it, you probably do; you should probably get tested.”

“If your symptoms aren’t life-threatening, simply stay at home, medicate with over-the-counter medicines, drink lots of water, get a lot of rest and check out the shows you want to binge-watch,” she said.

Parties and bars man - the absolute worst.

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“First, do no harm” is an impossible principle to square up with Doctors For Trump. Should be instantly disqualifying for anyone taking that oath.

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Yes, children under the age of 15 or so do appear to be fine without treatment.

But once you get over 20 and even more so after 30, a significant percentage will develop serious pneumonia and will die without intensive medical treatment that is often lasting up to 3 weeks.

However, those under 50 that get intensive treatment usually make good recovery.

In both Wuhan and now in Italy the death rate for the younger patients went up as hospitals were overwhelmed.

The Boomers are going to fucking kill me I know it. By the time I get this their dumb asses will already be hogging up all the respirators - and then they die anyway.

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My local school district closed until the end of April. The biggest concern didn’t seem to be how to educate kids for the next 6 weeks, but how to feed kids where school might be the only meal they get.

If that’s not a fucking wake up call to the country then we are truly lost.

My school district is supplying 2 meals a day for pickup, no questions asked. My district has always had free summer meals as well, because I don’t live in some redneck shithole and we care about people.

But still. The government should be tasked with feeding people. School districts should worry about educating kids.

Fuck capitalism.

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Can one of you lawbros trademark “Boomer Flu” for me before it’s too late?

For you parents