Pretty much what happened here. One cab driver had symptoms and just didn’t give a shit. Once community-spread hit Prague the idea of containment was dead
As of right now the CFR in South Korea is 0.9%. Hopefully you’re right but I reckon it’s difficult to know how far and in what direction that stat changes given x are untested and y still awaiting outcome. I still think the best metric that will come available will be from the Diamond Princess.
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That is good thinking. I’m sure there are lots of factors that make it not quite right, but it seems way better than any of the country-wide calculations. It looks like it’s 0.91 there.
How were the patients that needed hospitalization treated on the diamond princess? Were they taken off the ship and put into ICU’s?
Dunno. What was the average age on the cruise ship? (It was 58) (no one under 70 died)
I’m all in favor of disinfecting with the blood of the lamb but just get a jug of bleach and a jug of rubbing alcohol. Mix the alcohol with hand soap for hand sanitizer. Mix the bleach with paper towels for wipes.
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I don’t know how you know this. We are hardly testing anyone, I don’t know how epidemiology models work but they can make reasonable guesses based on how this is spreading elsewhere.
Why do you say this? South Korea is doing the best job at handling this out of anyone, China completely flubbed it. Iran is letting prisons open and possibly digging mass graves, it’s a mess.
As for North Korea, we have no idea what’s going on there but I highly doubt they’re going to avoid mass outbreaks of coronavirus and there’s no way they have the resources to deal with it.
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We called Sid our Italian Greyhound “The dogfather”. He ruled our house with an iron paw.
But even Sid wasnt a complete narcissist. When my 19 year old son passed, he become very cuddly when I was sad. Whenever my wife was sick he snuggled her until she got better. Otherwise he wasn’t that affectionate.
Trump seems to have zero redeemable qualities. He is a Bond villain that would be rejected as “too callous” to be believed.
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This is the best plain language summary I have found so far:
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Actually yes. Or cheap cologne.
p.s. Are you really having trouble finding rubbing alcohol?
For anybody who wants to follow Czech Republic in lieu of me posting, here it is in English
Guess you can look at this and see all the stuff America isn’t doing
That seems like a good activity to keep. You don’t have to share an item like a ball, you don’t have to be on top of each other. Maybe wasteful to take more vehicles to avoid 5 people in an Outback but not a bad trade-off.
We plan to take advantage of walking the dogs. We live near Valley Forge plus and a nice rail to trail just a couple of blocks from our house.
Yeah, it’s horrible to speak in these terms but it’s a captive population with a more or less precise number we know to have been infected. As a wild guess I’d imagine that the general cruise population trends older than the norm but with fewer at age 80+.
Results are still incomplete: 696 infected, 364 cases remain active, 325 recoveries, 7 deaths.
As far as I know all those that died were evacuated and treated in hospitals beforehand.
Docs reckon between 3-6 weeks recovery and we know the majority were infected at or before 26th Feb. Another 2-3 weeks should give us more or less complete results.
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Instead of calling you a moron, I’ll explain again what I wrote with some more details about how human trials work because you obviously didn’t understand.
Yes, I said I’m doubtful that at this stage of where they are in the vaccine process that they can know with 100% certainty that they have a vaccine that will work. But I admitted I don’t really know for sure. (My experience is in small molecule medicines - and not as a researcher.)
However, if it’s true that they know with certainty, (or even if it’s highly probable for that matter), instead of wasting money on stimulus packages for the market, the govt should step in here and do all necessary steps to shorten the time to approval and distribution for a vaccine.
My ideas:
- Work with multiple vaccine researchers who are at the stage where they are certain that they have a vaccine that will work
- Embed FDA teams with the research and clinical teams to shorten the length of the safety trial and efficacy trials. (By embedding FDA with the teams, tons of time can be saved from the normal review and approval cycle because FDA will be intimately familiar with the manufacturing process and the trial data, saving months or years from the approval process)
- Simultaneously to the above, scale up each vaccine now at risk (meaning that for each trial that fails, you’ve wasted millions scaling up because the material needs to be destroyed)
- Prime the distribution channels while waiting for the final approval (i.e. - deliver the shit to all the main distribution hubs so it’s very close to the end user everywhere)
- If only one of the vaccine programs selected works, time to approval is drastically reduced and scale up is already completed (i.e. - you have large amounts of a working vaccine ready to go)
That is a no brainer response IF it is true that at this early stage of the game researchers can say with a high degree of certainty that they have developed a working vaccine. (Hell, I would do this on multiple programs that have only a 50:50 chance)
As a positive side note: lessons learned doing this could help reduce the timelines for all drug development research.
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Uh, yeah it would be bad to hang out with your friends when you’re sick in the middle of a pandemic. Just suck it up and stay home.
Thanks, and yes, we have bleach, alcohol and even a bit of hand sanitizer in the flat already. I will be stocking up on bleach (other two gone, I think), then researching and implementing how we need to combine those this evening. What fun!
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Agree, lot of good info.