what is cryptic transmission
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In Reno, Costo on Saturday was nuts - maybe 10% worse than a standard Saturday, which is why I avoid it. We just went shopping at Whole Foods and Raleys, probably spent 5% more and had both places pretty much to ourselves - although they admittedly didn’t any half cow carcasses for sale. We’ve always 100 Gallons of water in the garage after an episode a decade ago, and I just rotate out 5 gallons a week (which we use for an indoor fountain, but could drink) - but that’s about the extent of my efforts thus far.
MM MD
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Taco Bell has sour cream in a caulk gun. I can’t replicate that at home.
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Never say can’t.
I really hate most poker players.
https://twitter.com/realcharder30/status/1233915582719942656?s=21
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Since we are sharing …
When my wife and I first started dating, she was preparing us a home-cooked Chinese stir-fry meal. She was doing all the work and I was standing around doing nothing and feeling a trifle guilty. So I asked if there was anything I could do. She said I could check if the rice is ready.
I walked over to the rice cooker thingy, opened the top, looked inside and said Nope, doesn’t look ready to me. My wife looked at me like I was from another planet but just said in a calm voice “You’ve never used a rice cooker before, have you?” Nope, I said, never even seen one before today.
Well, she explained that the rice cooker has a light that illuminates when the rice is fully cooked. So you don’t have to open the top and let all the steam out to check on it.
Oops is all I could say.
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She’s probably regaled her friends and family with that story countless times.
Standalone rice cookers make a lot of sense for people who eat rice daily. Less so for people who make it once a month, but I have a multi-cooker that can do rice.
There was one of those College Humor (I think) videos about dating an Asian girlfriend a while back. My favorite part was when the guy opens the dishwasher and thousands of plastic bags fall out. I could bring my ex flowers and she’d barely register, but bring her a giant grip of plastic bags and she gets all giddy.
So, if the probably worst case scenario in terms of mortality of 2% hits, it would be easily the worst medical disaster in the western world since the 1918 flu. But in terms of affecting day-to-day life - the VAST majority affected are elderly or have significant comobidities - your trucker hauling the Costco semi, or your kid handing you your Chicken Sandwich at the drive thru isn’t going to be affected, most likely - and neither are the vast majority (unlike me) of our posters here. At most, you’re going to get stuck for a 14 day house-arrest for quarantine (which seems pretty unlikely, but who knows)
Electricity is going to work, water is going to flow, internet will let you look at Youtube. The majority here is going to feel like crap for a few days, then feel better a few days later, and then back to normal. It’s going to be a low grade shit show, but the world will keep spinning - until the next time, I suppose. But Covid-19 isn’t going to be the apocalypse.
To be clear - be smart about stuff - I’m on chemo and radiation and I get in and the hell out of the treatment area, religiously wash my hands like a doc (if you don’t know how, look up a video, cause you’re doing it wrong), avoid air travel for a while as well as large crowds - but that’s probably just exactly what I SHOULD be doing in my present state, like elderly/people on chemo/radiation/chronic renal/lung issues.
MM MD
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I’ma quit being a librul and start stocking up on ammo. Thanks for waiting in line at Cosco suckers.
(Suzzer, they are talking ammo supplies over on Chiefsplanet aren’t they?)
Obviously I’m not an expert in any way, but a few things this makes me think…
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The estimates on how many cases get serious and require hospitalization may be significantly off. If it’s being transmitted and people are either asymptomatic or get basically a normal cold and don’t seek the type of medical care that leads to testing/discovery, there are likely way more cases of this than we realize both in the US and around the world, which means the mortality rate is lower and the hospitalization rate is lower than we think… but the risk of getting infected is way higher. Depending on how those factors line up, this could be good or bad news.
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What concerns me is not the “several hundred infections” in Snohomish County, it’s the thousands of people they came into contact with, the next step out, etc… If it’s flying under the radar in a community for six weeks, it’s probably literally everywhere in the world already. If hundreds of people in Snohomish County have been infected over the last six weeks, it’s damn near impossible that it’s not spreading at the community level in Seattle. If it’s spreading in Seattle, it’s almost certainly spread through the airport there, etc… Then it gets to the next place, and if it goes several weeks without being detected, again people aren’t on full alert and taking all precautions.
To me this means that “You’re likely to get it” may really be “Literally 90-95% of the public is going to get it,” but that it’s not as severe. What this means is that instead of focusing on avoiding the spread, we would be better off focusing on getting people to get treated at the first sign of complications, preparing hospitals for tons of patients, scaling up temporary beds in hospitals, preparing federal responses for particularly hard hit areas, etc.
Sadly, we probably won’t know for sure whether any of this stuff is an accurate hypothesis for weeks/months, so we’re really playing catch up in a big way, and at the end of the day we can count on the Trump administration to be doing ~nothing.
If we had any normal president, this kind of preparation would have been done at the highest levels a few weeks ago. Instead, I think we’re just all going to get this thing. If you’re out in the world on a day-to-day basis, I don’t see how you avoid it now.
For the VAST majority of people, the critical treatment is STAY THE FUCK HOME AND DON’T GO BACK TO WORK, push fluids and rest - and their bosses have to go along with this - of course, with the idiots we have in charge, the chances of them doing this are zero.
MM MD
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You’re the best person I can ask this to by far. If you were 33 years old with asthma, how worried would you be and how many precautions would you be taking? I’m a live poker pro, so in theory I can avoid work for a month or two if the risk is high enough and hole up at home… I know a poker table in a casino is just about the worst place you could imagine to spread germs, but given the uncertainty I’m worried about holing up now and then it actually gets bad in a couple months and I’m suddenly missing too much income.
I’m also thinking it’s much more difficult to avoid once people are actually symptomatic, so if it’s already in Philly but most people are not symptomatic or are in the incubation period, frequent handwashing and not touching my face should be a pretty good way to protect myself, right? I assume it spreads way more rapidly when people are coughing/sneezing and sending the virus airborne at 40 mph or whatever the velocity of a cough/sneeze is?
- Do you have asthma or do you have ASTHMA - i.e. if you’re a steroid dependent asthmatic I’d be more concerned - not because steroids are going to make you prone to bacterial infections (they aren’t) but it’s a surrogate marker for the fact that you have pretty bad chronic inflammatory disease, and I’d be cautious.
- I’d be VERY cautious about assuming people are obviously asymptomatic - I don’t think the data is out.
- Very much wash your hands, keep touching your face, and use hand sanitizer. And I’d avoid a player who looks obviously ill - I mean, it’s a no win situation, right?
- and run good, I suppose. Although (at least thus far) the biggest thing you can to keep healthy is to wear your seat belt on the way to the poker tables. This may change, though.
MM MD
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No they’re still in stiff upper lip mode because Dear Leader is telling them it’s a hoax. That will do an instant 180 into full-blown panic mode - with one tweet blaming immigrants, which I expect to happen if things get bad.
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I have exercise and cold weather induced asthma, and it tends to flare up into cough-variant asthma if I get like bronchitis or something, in which case I usually need some form of steroidal inhaler or prednisone tablets to shake it.
What do you mean? Like, if you’re around someone in the incubation period, they’re not going to be spreading it as badly as someone who’s coughing/sneezing, right? And doesn’t that thing in Washington about six weeks of cryptic transmission mean there’s a high likelihood of people carrying it without getting significant recognizable symptoms?
Assuming this means keep avoiding touching my face. But yeah doing all these things, although it seemed like half the table had a mild cough today - that time of year. I’m doing the proper handwashing thing from the WHO video every time I go to the restroom, before eating, etc, and I’m going to start carrying hand sanitizer and try to use it every dealer push if I play again.
That’s good to hear. Anything you’d recommend from a nutrition/supplement/OTC perspective to reduce the likelihood of catching something like this? I’ve been taking Zicam spray because I just had a regular cold, I’m thinking if something fights the four usual coronaviruses, there’s at least a chance they might help fight this? Also eating lots of hot peppers and some citrus fruits to try to give my immune system a little natural boost.
yeah, i could see curfew/forced off the street in big cities like NY if things get real bad and hospitals are struggling but i don’t see stores running out of food. the number of humans involved in the supply chain are minimal. one trucker is hauling tons of food and he is not getting corona virus alone on the highway and the teenagers stocking the shelves at Walmart will have < 1% mortality rate + self checkout.
Your country has been drawing live to a nuclear war for at least 60 years.
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