College Basketball 2021-22 Season Thread

Oh my god a strike at SOMEONES PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT!!!

Never happened before no sir. The NHL doesn’t exist. NBA never had a fight before. Howard slapping at the back of a coach’s head who is grabbing his players is basically an unprecedented felony with the only approved punishment being a firing. This comes from our lord and savior, meb.

Meanwhile, sticking up for the Wisconsin assistant at the same time who didn’t even take a fine. Good lord dude it’s just not that serious calm down.

That’s an automatic firable offense for 99.9%+ of jobs in college athletics. Congratulations to the Michigan Athletic Department for deciding that their men’s basketball coach isn’t capable of living up to that standard.

It wasn’t for Michigan, Wisconsin or Washington the past few months so sure go ahead do your thing dude.

It’s ok, we all know Michigan has a long history of not caring about abuse. Go Blue!

https://www.si.com/college/michigan/football/university-of-michigan-football-doctor-robert-anderson-bo-schembechler

Equating what anyone did to what Howard did is ridiculous. This isn’t the first time he’s been in a spot like this either.

Howard was the catalyst so It’s hard to fault everyone else for their reactions.

You can’t take a swing at someone when you coach kids. Especially not on a nationally televised game. Your argument that he won’t be fired doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.

Oh yes the systematic abuse of michigan athletes is basically the same as Howard’s open hand strike on a guy grabbing his players is a thing you could do.

Embarrassing indeed.

I’m sorry but if yelling at Turgeon is a similar spot you’re proving my point.

And I’m not equating what Howard did to anyone. Howard clearly deserves the worst punishment for the event. The idea that it’s an automatic firing for 99.9% of teams when a coach “strikes” an opponent is just false and bullshit.

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It is a firable offense for 99.9% of jobs in college athletics. Trust that I have a level of expertise on this similar to where you might be annoyed by people questioning you on medical topics.

There are very few places in college athletics you get away with this. The UW AD was having difficulty composing himself in the post game press conference because one of his employees had just been assaulted, and Michigan is allowing the person responsible for that to keep their job. It’s unacceptable and should be an embarrassment to the entire University. If any coach of any sport at the school I work for did that, they’d be fired before the end of the day.

Oh yeah the Wisconsin ad who defended the hc and assistant coach was mad? This guy?

https://twitter.com/uwbadgers/status/1495948565482557441?s=21

No provocation at all? That’s the guy you’re going with? Ok then.

https://twitter.com/wrhiv_72/status/1495956754471006212?s=21

I eagerly await the assault charges coming lol.

But hey you can really leverage Dr Anderson to troll meb. Good work.

Jesus, guys if I’m ever this blinded with bias, please snap ban me, so I don’t embarrass myself as bad as cn.

Oh and I forgot, meb if this is an automatic firing I have some questions.

DJ Durkin’s negligence killed a player. He was originally reinstated before being fired, and is currently TAMU’s DC. BK’s negligence killed a student. Dantonio wasn’t fired after he did some serious rule bending to let in the kid from Indiana who raped someone in high school, who went on to rape a MSU student. You know there are many more truly heinous things out there wrt NCAA coaches.

I get that you think Howard should be fired. I think that’s a perfectly reasonable position. Saying 99.9% of schools would do it flies in the face of everything we know about college athletics and is utter horeshit. The bottom 0.1% of holding onto or hiring a coach isn’t Howard hitting the back of this guys head with an open palm doing no damage.

There’s a lot more jobs in college athletics than you realize. Most of the sick disturbing shit happens in a small number of jobs related to the highest levels of football and mens basketball.

Ok, I just watched the video. I saw it briefly before, but with this argument, I wanted to give it another look.

Gard grabbing Howard was a total nothingburger. Gard knew Howard was upset about the timeout and was going to just do a blow-by in the handshake line, so he stopped him to explain. It clearly wasn’t some sort of malicious “come here and fight me” grab - it was just a “hey, stop a sec so we can talk.” Seeing anything hostile there from Gard is just someone wanting.

I think I saw the Wisconsin assistant “putting his hands on” a Michigan player. There was a lot going on. If it’s what I saw, it looked to me like a coach just trying to keep players from getting involved or fighting. Unless I’m looking at the wrong dude, there wasn’t anything that appeared to be a coach going after a player or anything that would warrant Howard slugging him.

Part of the reason I keep saying 99.9% of college jobs and not 99.9% of D1 mens basketball jobs is to point out the hypocrisy here. If this is a firable offense when the women’s la crosse coach does it, it’s also a firable offense for the mens basketball coach.

Fwiw, I know directly of a mens basketball coach (not at the D1 level) who was fired over a very similar incident.

Yeah someone named Kathy Klages would definitely be fired right away right?

The 99.9% comment is absurd, and frankly you know that including a bunch of not major sports is ludicrous. Things like soccer and major basketball programs are not the same. This incident is unacceptable, but it’s not ‘assault’ and it’s not something that nearly every program would fire a coach over in a similar position.

Argue all you want it should be a firing. It’s perfectly reasonable to say that. Stick to that, and avoid doing the Dr Anderson bullshit.

He allegedly threatened to kill Turgeon.

Turgeon also said he only said don’t talk to me, which is an obvious lie. You should believe him though.

You don’t think we should talk about the fact that the same athletic department excusing assault by a prominent head coach in their department also knowingly covered up years of abuse in their department?

To be fair, I’d be similarly critical of something like this coming from Michigan State or Penn State or Baylor.

Where does the Big 10 get off levying a fine on an amateur player greater than his net worth?