Yeah, part of the context here is we are all seeing dipshits like Tucker Carlson coming out against “cancel culture”, and we know its because his closet is full of skeletons wearing KKK hoods. So where we see people we know are good and smart (Noam Chomsky, skydiver8) commenting against cancel culture we are all like HOLD UP WHAT!?!?!?
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Maybe I was misunderstanding, apologies if I was, but I thought your initial argument was that cancel culture is bad because people are being unfairly cancelled and not that some people skate off with no punishment.
But either way I think it’s hard for something like this to always get done fairly/equally because there isn’t a “cancel culture” leader or anything like that.
Iran has a cancel culture leader. Lots of countries do. So, why not us?
I’ve had acquaintances who have been dicks to closer friends by saying something rude and I’ve stopped talking to them and avoided them, so is that cancel culture?
Actually instead of answering that can you define what you think cancel culture is just so I can understand your POV more clearly? It seems like you think it’s being ignored by people because of a transgression that you think you were unfairly judged about?
are you owning the libs itt?
Who’s Iran’s cancel culture leader and what other countries have one? Also for countries that are somewhat theocratic I could see a “cancel culture leader” being very different compared to what we are talking about here
Nah he was ok with Kathy Griffin getting canceled.
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Well yeah hypocrisy is a given of course. But the current faux outage at imaginary out of control liberal censorship is the topic of the day.
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As of '89, and yes I’ll keep going back to this, it was Ayatollah Khomeini. I’m just trying to raise the question of authority. BTW, the fatwa against Rushdie exists to this day, although the Iranian government no longer believes he should put to death.
I don’t know. I’m agreeing with Chomsky. You can figure that any way you wish.
Yeah i know its just funny seeing the right get huffy when they put comics, musicians and artists in jail with obscenity and indecency laws…
How does this guy who died in 89 have anything to do with the cancel culture discussed in the current day? Also what many other countries have a “cancel culture” leader?
or Tucker Carlson, if we’re playing this highly sophisticated game.
Sorry I was unclear. The fatwa against Rushdie was declared in '89. The death sentence was lifted in '98. Don’t recall when Khomeini died. I’m just trying to defend one of the more unimpeachable signatories from some of the rather broad generalizations being cast.
As to what other countries, you might ask Jamal Khashoggi or one of numerous defenestrated Russian doctors.
Of course I’d pick a twitter mob over Carlson, but I’d rather have neither.
Well, your only argument in this thread was “calling out racism online = issuing fatwa against Rushdie”. If you are scared of vicious ‘twitter mobs’ and their deadly effect on our FREEDOM, you probably need to take some time and formulate better reasoning.
I don’t think that Chomsky and most of the other signatories have the same view of what “cancel culture” is.
That’s probably so. I can assure you that I have no desire to defend Weiss or Singal or McWhorter.
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I don’t tweet, so I don’t fear twitter mobs. I fear when the president suggests that libel laws should be loosened to make it easier to sue unkind authors or newspapers, or when he threatens to rescind broadcast licenses for television stations he considers misaligned.
i think you’re being obtuse, either in good-faith or not, to what ‘cancel culture’ mean to people who use that phrase.