I have trouble with psychiatrists being used to make the decision. Conservatorship cases i know of involve Alzheimer’s and similar conditions, like core neurological impairments.
Things like manic depressive and ocd are often spectrum like disorders and most people can function adequately with them.
I think psychiatry has it’s uses, but there’s a reason that places like the USSR claimed dissidents simply had psychiatric disorders and used that to lock them away.
This seems like the hottest of hot takes. You don’t think psychiatrists are aware that people with psychiatric disorders have varying abilities with respect to function? And who could possibly be better than a psychiatrist to make that determination?
It’s not my primary area of work, but I’ve done a few competency/disability evaluations. Any assertion of dementia should have been examined by a neuropsychologist or appropriately-trained clinical psychologist, and it would take incredibly poor neurocognitive scores to ethically justify a conservatorship on those grounds.
It’s hard to imagine anyone with that level of impairment performing like she does.
Yeah, all that seems like what I would have thought.
Simp seemed to suggest that a psychiatrist (either the patient’s own or a 3rd party one) shouldn’t be involved in the process at all. That seems like the most scorching hot take ever.
That last sentence is what bothers me the most. Obviously we don’t know everything that happened but they went from 0-100 instantly and have kept it there for twelve plus years.
It doesn’t appear any lesser restrictions have even been seriously considered.
At one point of the process those around Britney claimed she had dementia as well.
She absolutely was acting out frequently she having outbursts but she was distraught about the inability to be around her children.
As a layperson I have yet to hear anything that justifies this ongoing conservatorship. In my opinion a person has to be incapable of looking after themselves plus more.
I took care of my dad for the last ten plus years of his life with his advanced Alzheimer’s. I had a power of attorney for him. Guardianship/Conservatorship was never considered.
It is even more difficult in a family dynamic where members don’t really get along (dad and daughter did not have a good relationship). If they did this likely never would have happened. Britney pushed against her father controlling her life before the conservatorship. On first blush it looks like a power play by a father to regain control of a daughter who no longer wanted him to run her life.
I don’t think there is ever s state of mind that should preclude a person from obtaining their own lawyer. The courts claim she did not have the capacity to do that. That is nonsense. She didn’t want the lawyer the court appointed so she should have been able to choose someone else not forced to pay him 6 million dollars to work against him.
I’m drifting now but just realized we were talking about Spears net worth being 60 million dollars. She paid that lawyer 6 million dollars so far and had no say in it.
This whole thing is such a crock of shit. If she had no money and the same mental health issues that she has now, everybody would be perfectly fine giving her agency to go live in a cardboard box under a bridge.
On the eve of the hearing, according both to a person close to Spears and to law enforcement in Ventura County, California, where she lives, Spears called 911 to report herself as a victim of conservatorship abuse. (Emergency calls in California are generally accessible to the public, but the county, citing an ongoing investigation, sealed the records of Spears’s call.) Members of Spears’s team began texting one another frantically. They were worried about what Spears might say the next day, and they discussed how to prepare in the event that she went rogue. In court on the 23rd, an attorney for the conservatorship urged the judge to clear the courtroom and seal the transcript of Spears’s testimony. Spears, calling into the hearing, objected. “Somebody’s done a good job at exploiting my life,” she said, adding, “I feel like it should be an open-court hearing—they should listen and hear what I have to say.” Then, for the first time in years, Spears spoke for herself, sounding lucid and furious, talking so fast that the judge interjected repeatedly to tell her to slow down, to allow for accurate transcription. “The people who did this to me should not get away,” Spears said. Addressing the judge directly, she added, “Ma’am, my dad, and anyone involved in this conservatorship, and my management, who played a huge role in punishing me when I said no—Ma’am, they should be in jail.”
I feel like with the level of public scrutiny on this thing her family is going to prison and all the upper class white people who advised them, enabled them, and heavily partook in the looting are going to walk away basically fine.
She has for sure found the exit though. Saying that publicity is her friend is a huge understatement.
It’s sweet summer child to think that they’re going to lock up a bunch of white trash, throw away the key, and the people who very deliberately made the whole thing possible are going to walk away with the money they stole?
Her agents, her managers, her lawyers, the judge, and basically everyone who knew about this before it came out is suuuuuuuper complicit… and they aren’t going to get into any trouble at all. The family will take the weight for everyone because their role since the beginning (not that they knew this) has been to get blamed when it all inevitably fell apart.
I’m fine with her family getting absolutely wrecked here obviously, but I’d prefer that the rich white people not walk away with no consequences like will inevitably happen.