Ignorance and a lack of reading comprehension
A true and honest desire to stamp out anti-semitism in all its forms
Heâs not trolling. Like Larry David, Iâm sure he hates himself for many reasons that have nothing to do with being Jewish.
I think itâs really weird how language used by antisemites gets used by others.
The USA doesnât support Israel because of the arms industry. The position of support Israel is overwhelmingly popular politically for all sorts of reasons.
Yeah, UnstuckPolitics is just loaded with antisemites and race traitors.
Not going to quote the whole thing but I think this is a good post. I do not think that the things you list are enough when balanced against the politicianâs electoral concerns and the financial interests of their donors, but I get that you do.
We both support the protests for the pressure they apply. I also support calls to withhold votes for the pressure that it can apply, because I am probably more cynical about the motivations of politicians than you are.
Edit to add: thereâs also something to be said about personally deciding enough is enough. Not everyone withholding a vote is doing it because theyâre trying to influence the politician. They may also just be deciding that theyâre sick of the shit and refuse to support it in any way, and that vote may not come back even if the politician changes their position.
Sure showed âem with those third party votes in 2000, 2004 and 2016. Great job, worked out just great for progressive causes.
Why isnât the Ron Desantis one close?
I have to legit think on the Desantis one.
Itâs funny how itâs always the progressivesâ fault, and never the fault of the politicians who alienated them in a misguided attempt to capture centrists
So is this an empty threat, or do you actively support burning it all to the ground if your pol doesnât give you all that you want?
Yeah, this is pretty stupid.
Idk, as Iâve said before Iâm probably going to vote for Biden anyways. Go ask Macklemore
If you mean would I support Macklemore threatening to burn it all to the ground if politicians didnât give everything he wanted? I guess it depends on what he wanted. Probably yes if politicians can just take the progressive vote for granted, whatâs the point?
What do you think is the most popular position in the US right now of how to handle the situation in Israel and Gaza? Not the moral one, just the popular one.
Because I think that if popular opinion is closer to the progressive activists than to the politician, then sure, blame the politician. But if the politician is in a position thatâs more popular than the progressive activists, then itâs incumbent on the activists to change popular opinion. The politician is literally doing the job description.
Their job description is being failures at leading people? Biden canât convince a majority of people that mass murder is bad? Seems like another good reason not to vote for the piece of shit.
The other guy is doing pretty well for himself promising more mass murder, but Iâm sure youâve got the secret sauce.
Iâm voting for whichever 3rd party candidate is polling the highest at the time of the election
The other guy is an incompetent shit bag who doesnât have the mental capacity to tie his own shoe laces let alone help Israel prosecute a war. So go ahead and fuck off with your trump is a bad bad man bullshit. Trump isnât a danger to the world or the country. It will be 4 years of stupid and lazy nothingness. Weâve literally watched this show before. Biden is both wholly immoral and mildly competent, much more dangerous than the dotard heâs running against.
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Also lol of course Biden can convince the majority of the country the war in Gaza is bad. He doesnât want to.
I disagree. The politician has the ability to shape public opinion. If Joe Biden came out tomorrow and said âwe have evidence that Israel has been using US-supplied weapons to kill innocent women and childrenâ, I think public opinion would shift pretty quickly. He can do that any time and doesnât have to wait for activists to sway public opinion first.
That said, the activists are both trying to sway public opinion and to influence the decisions of those in power (both political and financial, like the endowments of their universities). I donât see how we can be OK with Joe Biden accepting the loss of their votes in order to cater to a more politically popular position while also being angry at the activists for threatening to pull their votes. And this is assuming Biden doesnât do what I talked about in the first paragraph and is instead treating this as a vote trade-off exercise.
This is errr optimistic.
The best analogue to this is how Biden ended our involvement in Afghanistan. His approval rating plummeted, never recovered, and leftist give him near no credit for it.
Sure thing, man. Try telling that to the other half of the population. Or the million who died of covid.