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FWIW it seems like yall are doing a great job because I am completely unaware of the increase in moderation and I honestly didn’t know there’s some army of dipshits who are mad at mods (I do remember the weirdo with the creepy green dude crypt-keeper looking avatar who complained but I hadn’t ever even seen him before)
well, great, if they’ve already decided you’re biased then there’s no further downside to nuking them
I have no idea why people keep coming into the thread, volunteering that they have no clue what happened, but then reflexively assuming that the mods handled it all wonderfully and everybody opposed should get banned.
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We should probably not use this word when ultimately discussing banning the word ■■■■ from being posted.
me not seeing the feud is a good indication that the mods are doing a good job
Sorry, but that is wrong. It just means that you somehow managed to avoid the 5 or 6 (or more) threads solely dedicated to the matter that never should have happened because we should have moved on from the matter after it was voted on and settled.
It’s really easy tho. The fights are on a subject that almost no one cares about. The people in question probably aren’t particularly popular in the community.
I thought the same thing until people argued that no black squares means you are dismissive of woman and i was like that sounds odd. Maybe there might be more than one side to this.
yes, but it also means it hasn’t spilled into the forum in general and hasn’t ruined my enjoyment of the forum.
the people who are mad have obviously had space to voice their concerns. it sounds like the decision has been made, if they keep bitching about it then nuke em and move on
I mean, we would have had to nuke the mods if this is really your position. Seriously.
Sounds like he’s doing it right, I don’t see the problem.
Hopefully everyone has gained a new found appreciation for the difficulty our political leaders have keeping everyone happy.
ok nuke em then
His problem is assuming the mods are faultless and handled this all beautifully just because he somehow managed to avoid coming across it. (Meanwhile, several other posters have said that this drama is killing the forum.)
It sounds like different people can have different perspectives and opinions.
And even alternate facts.
Jbro, people aren’t taking your side because most people feel the mods do a good job, act in good faith, are integral part of the forum, and will defer to their judgment even if they don’t get things right every time.
I mean even if you were wronged, or thought people were wronged, this constant stream of posting and whining just comes off as pathetic and annoying. Nobody likes the guy that never shuts up.
Let’s take a look at the thread after it was bumped.
This post was not hidden. (Maybe someone will flag it now that I have mentioned it and it will be hidden,)
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https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/the-c-word/3572/521
This post was not hidden.
Neither was this one.
Or this one.
I generally agree with this statement:
I think it applies to the pro c-word people and not just the anti side, as I assume jalfrezi sees it.
I also think you are misreading what sky said.
Skydiver: “Stop it.”
Jalfrezi “Stop what, exactly?”
As I pointed out early, she threatened to hand out bans for using the word in flagged posts. She never threatened to ban people for using it in unflagged posts. People don’t want an automatic ban for any use of the word. That doesn’t mean that all use of it should be allowed. It’s not some sort of “get out of jail free” card where any use of the C-word is alright and trumps rules against trolling or excessive forum drama.
Maybe becauase these are longtime posters who, at this point, have known the mods for over a decade and trust their judgment?
I haven’t followed the ins and outs of the moderation controversies. But most successful blogs/forums (fora?) I read have moderation that is not generally up for discussion.
All this navel-gazing and discussing the intricacies of why one person was banned, and not another, and can I say this word, and what about this one, seems like a waste of time. Polls on these issues are not needed. If an individual mod wants to make a poll to read the room, fine. Otherwise just ban someone, and don’t feel the need to explain yourself, except maybe to inform the person what they did wrong.
I don’t know the details of how exactly this forum was founded, and whether there is a group of people with ultimate admin authority, or what. With all the voting, it seems like people want it to be a direct democracy, or an anarcho-syndicalist commune, or something.
But I think moderators should have the power to just delete posts and ban people, and not have to get into the exact reasons why in public. We’re all a bunch of nits who like to argue. It always turns into a disaster, though, when you’re allowed to argue the details of who was acting in good faith, and who wasn’t. Let the moderator decide.
If a moderator sucks, though, there has to be a way to get rid of him/her. I don’t have suggestions on that process. It’s easier on a blog with one or two people who founded the blog: if they think a moderator is good, they keep her, if not, they ditch her. At this forum, you’d probably have to vote. Maybe rotate mods, or have a mod vote once a year or something.
Just my two cents. As a lurker, the bickering about mod decisions is dumb. Temp ban/perma ban the people who cause the problems, send a short explanation, and don’t get drawn into further discussion.