Being a mod or admin is intolerable, and this community is at a high risk of dying

[WichitaDM]

Also I would guess 80-90% of posters have never been modded at all. Let’s not pretend this is a case of mods gone wild. It’s 10% of the forum being willing to take a shit on it for a reason I don’t quite understand.

[Soulman]

A super worthwhile opinion from another poster who doesn’t post much or hasn’t followed the drama much, if at all:

I think both PocketChads and Keeeeeeeeeeeeed would be potentially excellent mods. Although Keed’s range is probably anywhere from Reagan in the eyes of the GOP to Stalin in the eyes of the GOP, I’m leaning strongly towards the former.

[CS04]

The levels of butthurt over a possibly improper mod action/actions is just something I will probably never understand

[anon10387340]

@j8i3h289dn3x7

@anon10387340

Come on man. We very nearly voted in boredsocial until he clarified his positions. Then like 75% of us went and changed our vote.

Right, that’s exactly my point. Boredsocial was honest and acting in good faith…

Did you ninja edit? If not I apologize for missing your point and replying too hastily. If so, then your point wasn’t clear before you finished your edit, but is now.

[Yuv]

This thread killed Screech :(

[anon10396289]

@kerowo

Literally this all boils down to a handful of people think they have the right to say whatever they want and treat people however they want and anytime any modding of that abhorrent behavior gets done they throw a month-long fit.

No, it actually boils down to a failed attempt at community moderation where we have no idea how to actually implement it. The rules we have aren’t enforced equitably and don’t envision long running feuds or the level of single-mindedness we’ve seen here. Let’s declare this iteration of the rules of a failure and try something else.

I would handle the lack of rules not by trying to get a bunch of rules passed, but by acting within the guidelines I and PC have laid out. Then documenting every decision in the mod decisions thread, and probably highlighting a few of the decisions and offending posts in another pinned thread. So, two locked pinned threads: a log of the decisions and then a list of specific examples that tend to illustrate the ad hoc rules that have been developed so far.

If the community objects to any of these actions, they can override the moderators’ decision and the moderators should update their moderation to reflect the consensus.

[Trolly]

@Yuv

The first idea was to rotate the moderators as at least two of the current moderators are very emotionally involved in this argument.

That doesn’t solve anything if the new mods get harassed into quitting.

[superuberbob]

Totally agree. I used to get pissed about this as a teenager but now it’s whatever.

Internet isn’t real life.

[jmakin]

i’m chalking it up to covid boredom combined with trump being gone so there being no one to collectively rage at.

I know a lot of people here are dealing with some very real IRL issues as well. I wish people would take this angsty energy and direct it into more creative outlets, like contributing to some of the sundry chitchat topics, which are quite good and could probably exist as a standalone forum of its own. @RiskyFlush has done a very, very good job moderating this portion of the site and we have literally zero issues there.

[Yuv]

But one side is saying he is not harrasing anyone. So you either take “my way or the highway” approach which you seem to be in favor of or you try different ways to bridge the two sides of an ongoing argument.

The fact that the mods in question are active (if not leading) sides of the argument makes trying partial mods a pretty common sense approach unless you are set on blowing it all up

[anon10387340]

Sorry, but I believe I’m aware of a lot more of the actual details of what happened here than you are.

[NotBruceZ]

OK, I’ll go on the record to say that it was appropriate for Sky to threaten to ban users for “perpetuating this shitty forum-ruining argument”.

1. Temp-bans should be in the mods’ toolbox for dealing with problems.
2. These temp-bans, if short, shouldn’t require community approval via polls.
3. Trolling and forum drama are problems that mods should be empowered to deal with.
4. Gifted trolls are angle-shooters who can find ways around bright-line rules, so effectively dealing with them requires empowering mods to use their own judgment.

[King_of_NY]

@Trolly

That doesn’t solve anything if the new mods get harassed into quitting.

You’re only harassed into quitting if you feel the job is permanent

[jmakin]

@NotBruceZ would make an excellent mod

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

@marty

Then go back and read the thread.

Jman said he took a shot ffs.

C’mon, if you’re not keeping up then don’t bother taking part.

I don’t believe I’ve taken a shot at you since that dustup over that Goofy referenced, that I apologized for at the time, and for which I agreed to take a ban. If I have, please point it out to me.

[eyebooger]

@eyebooger

BTW, this thread is almost certainly going to get horrible real fast.

Just wondering if we’ve reached the bottom. (probably not)

[anon10387340]

@NotBruceZ

I’ll go on the record to say that it was appropriate for Sky to threaten to ban users for “perpetuating this shitty forum-ruining argument”

She threatened to ban a user for using a word in a context that the community said was ok. So no, mods do not have in their toolbox the use of bans for things the community voted were acceptable.

@NotBruceZ

Trolling and forum drama are problems that mods should be empowered to deal with.

What about when the mods contribute to the drama by using sarcasm and insults as liberally as the so called gifted trolls and angle shooters?

[jmakin]

well, thanks in no small part to the discussion going on right fucking now, he’s no longer a mod, so I don’t see why his opinion should concern anyone.

[Crunchyblack]

Why not step away for a few days? The community won’t disappear

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

@anon10387340

Did you ninja edit? If not I apologize for missing your point and replying too hastily. If so, then your point wasn’t clear before you finished your edit, but is now.

I did not ninja edit, no.