Yeah, if it weren’t so evil and infuriating I’d be deeply impressed by the brilliance of the branding and obfuscation with PPP. Even the name gives everyone the impression the money is going to workers. Paycheck protection! Come on, you gotta support that!
I’ve had to explain how the money actually just flows to owners as profit multiple times to some very intelligent / well-informed friends. The framing confuses people into thinking the workers wouldn’t otherwise get the money. Even Bernie was on TV earlier today referring to PPP multiple times as a “small business” program. That might technically be correct, but it’s misleading and again makes people think the money is mostly going to businesses that really need it.
wtf
And you know this how? You’ve been pretty open about how much money you spnd in a month, and the most likely way somebody like iron gets >$10k is by being on long-term unemployment, so…
I’m pretty sure he got a PPP loan, but if it’s unemployment then I apologize. Based on his general posting regarding economic policy, I assume he’s a lot wealthier than me.
Well you better start issuing those apologies then, because a real quick search of this very thread suggests that is exactly the case, and that you yourself quoted a post where he talked about it.
Oh, ok. I mean, creeping on her IMs seems pretty bad. I don’t have a problem with professing your interest to someone if it’s done appropriately, but I’m probably in the distinct minority here on that.
Why the fuck is someone on unemployment sticking up for giving all our money to corporations though? Makes no sense. Only reason to have that opinion is because you’re rich and selfish. Actually really believing that with no huge personal benefit is full wtf lol
I couldn’t get the UE as a schedule C filer because my quarterlies didn’t match whatever Byzantine rules matrix they required. I know other people who couldn’t get it for some dumb technical reasons who totally should have qualified. The thing that doesn’t require a 144-item IRS Form 1099-Kafka with edge cases that fuck people is straight cash homie.
I can pretty much guarantee I am one of the lowest paid people on this forum. Don’t feel sorry for me on this part though, I chose my career and could make a lot more anytime if I really wanted to. However, I usually bring in a a few grand extra per year through outside income that I’ve lost during Covid.
My only benefit from any stimulus so far has been the $1,200 check, so I am still largely net negative from all of this. Meanwhile our $10k per person stimulus program has largely benefited people who are far wealthier than I will ever be, so yeah this is all bullshit.
Of course, but you’re supporting shit that hurts people AND is against your interest lol.
In no way is giving corporations money instead of people a good thing. Not economically or morally. We would have been infinitely better off if they just cut everybody fat checks. Or at least the people who need it.
Expand testing and tracing, get 100 surgical masks (at like a nickel a piece) to every American.
Reopen for business, but keep bars, indoor dining, gyms, etc closed.
Figure out ventilation protocols for safe indoor dining, etc.
Implement it.
We were never more than 2-3 months away from solving this.
Instead we decided to do a half assed shutdown, give some corporations and businesses (but not all) money to funnel to workers (or skim I’m sure), pump the fuck out of the stock market, give everyone $1200, expand UI for six months, reopen and be like “Oh fuck were we supposed to do something with testing and tracing and are masks actually good?”
Like if humanity survives another 100 years, when they study 2020, it is going to leave them FAAF.
