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It was more sophisticated than we had imagined: new documents show that the violent crackdown on Occupy last fall â so mystifying at the time â was not just coordinated at the level of the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and local police. The crackdown, which involved, as you may recall, violent arrests, group disruption, canister missiles to the skulls of protesters, people held in handcuffs so tight they were injured, people held in bondage till they were forced to wet or soil themselves âwas coordinated with the big banks themselves.
shows a terrifying network of coordinated DHS, FBI, police, regional fusion center, and private-sector activity so completely merged into one another that the monstrous whole is, in fact, one entity: in some cases, bearing a single name, the Domestic Security Alliance Council
The documents, released after long delay in the week between Christmas and New Year, show a nationwide meta-plot unfolding in city after city in an Orwellian world: six American universities are sites where campus police funneled information about students involved with OWS to the FBI, with the administrationsâ knowledge (p51); banks sat down with FBI officials to pool information about OWS protesters harvested by private security; plans to crush Occupy events, planned for a month down the road, were made by the FBI
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Most of us have done it our whole lives. At least we got to feel hopeful and proud the night Obama won in 2008, even though we were sold a false bill of goods.
You guys really need to get over posters saying theyâre not voting for Biden in places like CA, NY, etc. I donât blame them. And until you live in this far right shit hole for a few decades, you donât really have any idea what itâs like to constantly vote for the slightly less right of center choice in a binary election.
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Occupy was insufficiently militant to be a vehicle for the change you desire.
I have no doubt the majority of people who have a problem with Biden are genuine. As has been stated many times he is not the first choice of a single person on this forum.
I think the issue is that centrists on this forum hurl all kinds of invective at folks who are choosing to abstain.
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I think part of the problem is you think there is a single person on this forum that can accurately be described as a centrist.
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There are self described centrists here
Anyone who can be described as socially/culturally liberal but fiscally conservative towards the debt/deficit, with respect for markets and a concern about over-regulation, is someone who can accurately be described as a centrist.
Any Democrat who stresses âhow do you pay for itâ as reason to oppose an idea like Medicare for All is a centrist.
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If Trump wins the election, it wonât have anything to do with a tiny niche community on the Internet and the subsequent impact we have on our friends and family. Stop beating this dead horse. Some of us donât want to decide between the lesser of two rapists.
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I havenât seen these issues raised in this forum at all.
Is there a single poster here that would have voted for Eliot Engel over Jamaal Bowman?
If there was ever a time to wish for having already made an Eliot Engel gimickâŚ
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I donât care how far to the left you are. If you canât see the large, meaningful differences between Biden and Trump, then posters here myself included wonât stop persisting in helping to show you them.
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I donât know how many people here would have thought that Engel needed to be primaried a year ago. Heâs probably not that different from someone like Adam Schiff.
I donât think theyâre further to the left than the pragmatic Biden voters here. Itâs that they canât and wonât hold their noses and feel grubby in order to stop the US fast forwarding into fascism that might be impossible to reverse out of without god knows what.
Is there a large, meaningful difference between the two for someone whose overwhelming number one issue is destroying the Democratic establishment? How does voting for Biden better accomplish that goal?