ACAB (formerly G Floyd) - Tyre Nichols video released, it's bad

What is that argument? I guess that so much shit would burn down that it should lead to a nationwide policy shift to just stop the burning?

I vastly prefer conviction because any hypothetical gain would be uncertain, whereas the conviction is both correct and advances racial justice. An acquittal would light a pretty long fuse, I imagine.

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Yeah. Again, like I said, it’s just an argument, but I could see an acquittal leading to protests that would make summer 2020 look quaint. And those protests led to fairly significant change in fairly short order.

There’s just no way he gets acquitted. Guilty on third degree and not guilty on second, sure, totally possible. Might even be how I’d vote. Hung jury like the case where the cop shoots the guy in the back running away, with one racist jury? Totally possible, but less likely in Minneapolis than SC. But an acquittal, or even just a manslaughter conviction? I just don’t see it.

I’d argue that a response to the burning would be indiscriminate killing of protestors. I mean the cops would have just found out that they can kill people without consequence. They’re gonna use that power to stop the BLM people they hate so much.

Sure? The police were still justified in using deadly force with little or no warning against Dorner imo. The dude was toting around an arsenal and wrote a manifesto declaring war against the police. This is frowned upon.

I mean I just don’t see it. I don’t care what color you are, if you target and kill police and then hole up with a bunch of guns in a cabin which is then surrounded by those slain officers’ comrades, the only way you’re getting out alive is if you loudly yell I surrender and exit with your hands up. Even then it’s kind of iffy.

wait wat

serious question, what did i miss?

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I think one state somewhere overturned their police officers bill of rights. I don’t know why that is a thing anywhere, but apparently lots of states have it. So progress I guess.

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progress baby

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It makes sense in theory, obv ridiculous in practice.

Dorner content excised.

Chauvin is never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever getting acquitted. Not happening.

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Chauvin is getting convicted. Where this shit is going to get dicey is when the other officers are tried.

They were trainees/newbies and the situation was eleven kinds of fucked up. I’m not even 100% sure what the other officers did was criminal. Don’t get me wrong, they shouldn’t be cops after this, but that’s probably reasonable enough on the consequences.

Chauvin is the murderer and was the authority figure at the scene… I don’t really see much value in pressing anything but relatively minor accessory charges and whatnot against the others. Chauvin needs to get as close to life as the law will allow though.

What were the other cops charged with?

What percentage of the US population would prefer to see Chauvin get acquitted, iyo?

Less than 5%

Not jman, but I’d venture that most of Trump’s base wants Chauvin acquitted.

How much has FOX News said about this?

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20 percent