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I have no problem with that or saying Nazis are bad under any circumstance, even right after they are arrested for exercising the free speech I think the USA government should allow.

As I said, I think you care more about defending your friends than any rules relating to the health of this forum. That’s been your flaw since its inception. Fidget and 6ix were bigger assholes to members here than Simp. I’m supposed to give you credit for disclosing that Risky is your friend? No shit, everyone is aware of where people’s allegiances lie.

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Lots of people have been assholes here from time to time. You and I included. That doesn’t put you on the chopping block and isn’t why simp got got. I’ll ask the same question from yesterday. If I was posting anti-black posts and using the N word day after day for years and years at what point is that not ok? That is what simp was doing and it was majorly fucked up. The people continuing to defend it are not an unsurprising bunch but you realize how bad it looks certainly right?

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At this point, duh. This forum fucked itself, made it clear that the posters are not a community and much less owners. Of course I care less about it when it’s no longer our forum.

No. And I wasn’t friends with Fidget before the ban-lusting. In fact, not really paying attention, I imagined he was like 15 years old because of all the fighting.

Not true and if you can’t see the difference, that’d be kind of shocking.

I don’t know why anyone would think Risky and I are on the same ā€˜team’ along with the others or anything. If they thought that, she probably wouldn’t have done very well in the mod election.

You underestimate yourself. You are one of the more popular posters here imo.

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Thanks and I know some people support me even in my endless arguments like this, but it’s polarizing and I think the association with the whole team (Captains) would be bad for electability. And I know from meeting posters irl who aren’t involved in the endless bickeringā„¢ that some people are surprised that I’m not a raging maniac.

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My perception is that you have always been a rational and not overly confrontational poster with some limited exceptions (ikes who I also have been driven crazy by so I get it). I’ve seen you post argumentative things lots of times where you didn’t get personal and just posted your point of view and I think most people here respect that. Hell you have told me where I was wrong a ton of times over the years and you have at least made me actually think about it rather than getting mad that someone was telling me that I was wrong. I think you are a smart and valuable member here even if we don’t agree on everything.

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For the record, I think Simp deserved to get banned for his posts, but not perma’ed. The way it went down with a new mod nuking him within her first hour in office is disrespectful to the community, the same way it was when Meb did it back in the day.

Really though this forum is way too past its prime to care much about any of that. I just made a silly animal farm analogy yesterday and got roped into defending it.

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simp got years worth of warnings and wouldn’t stop. No one was asking him to stop being a bigot just stop posting it all the time into a multitude of threads. He didn’t respect this forum or it’s member’s wishes and that is what got him banned. I completely disagree with you that Risky’s actions were disrespectful to the community. They were what the community wanted overall and Risky explicitly stated in her pre-election posting that it was coming should she be elected. She was elected at more than a 90% clip.

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Yes man, there is nothing wrong with your statement, but if your entire contribution to the ā€œshould nazis be arrested?ā€ discussion is ā€œNazis are badā€ you are implying that your answer to the question is yes. Otherwise you would presumably either (a) answer the question or (b) not participate in the discussion

6ix also mono posts, goes on endless tangents and was unable to let even the seemingly most minor perceived slight go. Even though he had good posts the bad far outweighed the bad for me, and I imagine quite a few others, given the endless bans and new accounts. Maybe I only noticed this behavior after the original Forum Warz ā„¢ and he started not giving a f, I dunno.

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The moderators of this message board, otatop, L.Washington, WichitaDM, Yuv, JonnyA, RiskyFlush, and SvenO, are cowards who let abusers dox and harrass other long time posters.

No it’s not. You’re a Quant or something and should understand when logical implications are made vs speculation and imagination. That’s why you put the word ā€œpresumablyā€ in there.

And anyone could always just ask me if I support a ban and I might answer if they’re not being a dick.

I mean he didn’t dox you. I like you but don’t think that actually happened he just reposted stuff you had posted. I don’t think you should leave and don’t want you to leave but if you really want to quit UP for life I guess I can see what we can do about anoning your account. I’ve never taken any mod actions and it isn’t even clear to me how to do it so I don’t know how to do what you are asking and hope you reconsider and don’t do it.

Or you could take a little responsibility on yourself to make your views clear if you don’t want people making (extremely justified) assumptions.

Otherwise people will rightly continue to do so. You don’t have to care.

Like ā€œI will state my opinion on the actual topic of the discussion if I decide someone is not being a dick but otherwise I will just make tangential remarks that imply my position is the opposite of what it is is just trolling.

For what it’s worth I want everyone to come back. Fidget, jal, jonny, 6ix, etc. This place was better with everyone here and I certainly would welcome everyone back.

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Instead of a permanent ban, it should have just been a tempban of maybe half of what Rivaldo got.

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Ok, but it’s not ā€œrightā€. Not in the sense of logically correct.

If they make unsupported conclusion that’s on them. And…

it’s not just that. I’m not going to be forced to issue a statement because I think someone expects or demands it. Fuck that. I don’t do that in any context.

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Only if you liked constant shit posting and endless arguments over old posts. Once those guys were gone this place became a much nicer place to hang out.

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You want to reunite the forum by ā€œchecks notesā€ more bans?