For the record, as it’s very important to some completely good faith posters, Trolly called me a coward twice for removing a throttle and demanded i’d make a public case for it (completely sane request that every mod had to do, surly).
I obliged and warned him to stop pming me and calling me a coward. Especially after i explained my decision to him in the PM as well and he ignored it.
Trolly then asked to make sure,
“To be clear, calling you a coward in a pm is a bannable offense now?”
To which i replied
yes, as it always was… i’m not banning you for the first two times. But i have issued a warning for the 3rd time.
I have explained using logic and words why i haven’t overruled potato and you ignored that and called me a coward again. If you are not attempting to have a conversation but instead trying to insult me in PMs that is harassment and you will be banned.
to which he replied:
Publicly justify your decision to overturn otatop or set down, coward.
Let me re-emphasize that this is about a throttle on a thread. Apparently I am such a low-level mod even that tiny decision is not within my right, while other mods of course can issue infinite amount of bans at all times, throttle whatever they want, change users trust level etc etc. They are the real mods, not me.
So let’s pretend this is a real discussion between adults.
I am a mod, I want a thread to not be throttled.
Potato is a mod, he wants a thread to be throttled.
Potato throttle a thread 500 times.
I unthrottle it once.
Survey says - Yuv is unilaterally overturning any mod as he please!
are you guys not embarrassed at how poor your postings are? just say the truth - “we think this forum belong to us. you are guests”. People can read
Every single mod decision made by non-approved member of the self-appointed ownership has been criticized, no matter how small. 6ix was banned for 2 weeks for literally nothing, but i get a rare visit from MrWookie on removing a throttle. Something that happened probably 50000 times in the history of the forum.
I have on many things. I am pretty much the only one who does that. I just saw a throttle on a thread that seemed like it was put in long ago (there weren’t that many new posts at the time with a throttle of 10 minutes) and removed it as threads should be unthrottled by default.
this isn’t even a thing. We can see you guys, you know. everyone can read.
Right, your whims are the ones that are important, and otatop can fuck off if he disagrees with you. You don’t have to consider anyone other than yourself unless you feel like it. And by the way, you’re the victim, too.
One could argue that throttling a thread is effectively unilaterally overruling the other mods deciding that no throttle is needed. The lack of an established process to resolve disagreements between moderators is a problem. Does whoever addresses an issue first get to set the precedent, giving disproportionate influence to those who spend more time online and in this forum?
There has been a complete failure to delineate moderator roles and responsibilities out of a seeming belief that mods are supposed to stop bad posting, that what is bad posting is obvious, and that if you don’t agree on what posting is bad, then you’re part of h problem.
You’re talking to a man who once throttled an active content thread at a rate of one post per day for weeks. Dude is passionate about throttles, fucken loves em. Why are ANY threads unthrottled???
Did otatop consult yuv before banning me for a week for nothing and 6ix for three weeks for even more nothing? Of course not, but in your eyes he’s not required to because those are Good Bans of your Forum Enemies.
For the official record, I didn’t think removing a 10 minute throttle that was placed hours ago required mod coordination. If someone think it does, we can start an RFC and decide on specific rules.
I do suggest that for now on any decision on throttles will be made with full mod coordination. Adding or removing, as this sensitive subject is in the heart of our fragile community.
If anyone truly believes that this discussion is done in good faith by Wookie and Trolly bless your heart.
