About Moderation

mukdukaluk · December 20, 2022, 10:34pm

Who are you directing this at? Always love articles with no comment in about moderation

WichitaDM · December 20, 2022, 10:35pm

Let’s just assume church only posts “constant streams of bullshit”. Who exactly does that hurt here?

smrk4 · December 20, 2022, 10:36pm

Remember nun, whom did he hurt? I recall your lawnmower being in high orbit about him for a while.

BusinessGenius · December 20, 2022, 10:36pm

@NotBruceZ it’s time to admit you’re @NoMatterWho

Unless it’s Ray Horton in which case I apologize to NBZ

WichitaDM · December 20, 2022, 10:37pm

It’s a fair point but nun had a penchant for nonstop personal attacks which church does not.

I also regret and have mentioned i regret that interaction. If i could do it again I would do it differently.

LouisCyphre · December 20, 2022, 10:39pm

It‘s a response to

I thought it was obvious.

smrk4 · December 20, 2022, 10:39pm

I don’t know whether churchill posted constant streams of bullshit, I grunched that thread for actionable things related to me, but are you saying that posters who aren’t directly “hurt” by streams of bullshit should not take an interest in the quality of the discourse on the forum? That seems extreme.

WichitaDM · December 20, 2022, 10:40pm

Nun is not some victim of the forum. There are hundreds of posts like this

He was the original bully.

smrk4 · December 20, 2022, 10:43pm

he was a voluminous and often times a shit poster, but it’s a stretch and a half to say he hurt anybody; anybody nun “hurt” engaged him willingly, he never did random drivebys of posters

WichitaDM · December 20, 2022, 10:45pm

Even advocates for no mods wanted him modded

WichitaDM · December 20, 2022, 10:47pm

Using him as an example of a victim is crazy af. He was legit the most abusive poster in the history of UP/EP. I can keep going if you want.

That being said I think they should be allowed to post here and regret saying otherwise.

CaffeineNeeded · December 20, 2022, 10:50pm

I won’t speak for everyone, but this shit is personal to me. I already wrote why here:

CaffeineNeeded:

Believe it or not, it takes more than a walk for me to not be upset about people spreading covid misinformation. Turns out that working in a mass casualty event for a month then high acuity and overload situations for another year makes you a little sore about a subject. Some of the shit I had to do was wild man, and I still think about it quite a bit.

It’s weird, because you don’t think of everything , at least I don’t. I think of a few discrete people. I think of an argument I got into with a PA in the ICU who canceled my covid test I ordered because “if this person has covid we’re all fucked” ( spoiler alert - we were fucked ), the first person I intubated with confirmed covid (a 70 some year old man who went on to die), and this 30 year old guy.

Things were wild then. This guy was previously healthy, 30-something, with a family. He came in absurdly hypoxic and hypotensive. His right ventricle was blown out so we started him on norepinephrine to raise his blood pressure, intubated him, and gave him tenecteplase basically just assuming he had a blood clot in his lungs. He got better, started him on a heparin drip. We never actually confirmed he had a PE with a CTA because he was so unstable and it wouldn’t change management at this point. I signed him out to the night team.

Got him back and he was getting worse. He was requiring additional pressure support. I talked to his family over FaceTime with his children who were just old enough to kind of understand what was going on, but not old enough to really know. Said fuck it, fired off another clot busting drug, and he got better. Signed him out to the night team.

Got him back the next day and things are grim. He’s maxed out on everything. I’m still a resident now, about 2 months from graduation. Still I’ve been working with my attending for awhile so the decision to fire off another round of clot busting drugs was just as mine as it was hers. It doesn’t go well this time. He goes into disseminated intravascular coagulation, and dies bleeding from his IV sites, eyeballs and into his endotracheal tube. I spent 20 minutes cleaning him before holding the phone during FaceTime so the family could see their dead dad.

So yeah, this shit makes me pretty upset. I’m ok with that. That 30 year old is one of about 10 stories I cycle through sometimes. I think about this quote a lot, “Every surgeon carries within himself a small cemetery, where from time to time he goes to pray-a place of bitterness and regret, where he must look for an explanation for his failures”. I’ve learned from those times though.

I also think how fucking pathetic it is that you defend churchill not because you actually think he was right because you’re too smart for that, but because someone said something mean to you online or banned you a few days. Like fucking hell how pathetic is that?

FuncrusherPlus · December 20, 2022, 10:52pm

None of this shit matters. JFC everyone let things go. Start trying to see the best in each other. It’s really not that hard.

Yes, message board ideology sometimes exerts a pressure that causes us to treat others in a way we normally wouldn’t. So fucking what. Be the change you want to see. Realize the characters here are some of the most compassionate, thoughtful versions of whatever box you put them in.

Bring hardcore raves back ffs.

mukdukaluk · December 20, 2022, 10:53pm

Compassionate and thoughtful aren’t adjectives I can associate with UP no matter how hard I try sadly.

clovis8 · December 20, 2022, 10:54pm

The forum archaeology to find bad posts by people is so dumb. Similar posts can be found of every single poster who has ever posted here or on any forum.

Here is some deep human insight. Everyone loses their cool or acts in a way they wouldn’t normally from time to time. This is only amplified online.

WichitaDM · December 20, 2022, 10:57pm

The one bringing up ancient history was smrk fwiw.

BusinessGenius · December 20, 2022, 10:58pm

Goofyballer was just better at being an abuser, complete with his pack of flying monkeys (look it up, it’s a term for a phenomenon surrounding expert abusers that applies to many UPers. Super shocked to see Rugby fell for goofy’s abusive shit though)

BusinessGenius · December 20, 2022, 10:59pm

And some people wage extended, multiyear campaigns of abuse. The guy most skilled at this is now gone, of his own volition, and it’s nicer around here now.

FuncrusherPlus · December 20, 2022, 11:00pm

WichitaDM · December 20, 2022, 11:01pm

To correct my earlier post micro wasn’t asking for mod action just saying if we needed mod action nun would be the one who needed it in that interaction.