It’s all good and I appreciate that. I can understand why you would feel that way. Hopefully there are no lasting hard feelings. There are none on my end at this point towards anyone.
And yes I acted poorly probably most of all to you and i regret that and apologize.
Ok but that’s a minor point (he personally calls out other people besides RM too). I’m more talking about how he views this whole forum as bootlicker right-wingers and is not afraid to repeat it, nor does he get banned for it.
If that’s the type of standard you want to set for the community, I’m down I suppose. However, it’s hard for me to take it seriously though as the time I earnestly PMd you about your posts you told me to fuck off. Hell you called me deplorable how many times just up thread?
If y’all want to make the next nidus of drama me after everything else, it’s going to be ignored by me.
Right, no one said that. The frothing resentment and biased moderation was the nail in the coffin for me. The vote is just like a formal representation of the attitude that makes the sub impossible.
Story checks out.
Victor can be abusive yes. I don’t believe I’ve ever objected to any of his temp bans and as long as they’re within reason and not absurdly long I probably won’t.
where’s the cool cat thread? can’t seem to find it
I didn’t call you a deplorable. Intentionally. I selectively defended Keeed, yes, and i acknowledged that you were widely considered deplorable (which is true) but I didn’t call you one. On purpose!
It is the standard I want and it’s the standard I get when chatting with lots of people, even when they disagree, everywhere but here, and that includes 2p2 for the most part.
And that’s how we get to where we are today.
It is now the called “The Chitchat LC Thread for Sundry Chatchitting” which is obviously hopeless as it lacks “Ginger”, “Cool” and “Cat”. Don’t know what the world is coming too.
Going to answer this part too. First there was an argument happening. Second, I think sending a PM to anyone at all unsolicited is a personal invasion unless you have some reason to think it will be received well. Third, your words may have passed some politeness test, but you were telling me to shut up in a very dismissive and condescending way. Under those circumstances I absolutely stand by my response, including the “and never PM me again” part.
This whole interaction reminds me of a scene from Rounders. I’m out here asking Grama for a little grace and Worm just won’t listen to me when I tell him to stfu.
I’m gonna both sides a little here, but please stop trying to provoke each other and please cut the name calling and insults for a few weeks while we get some new things in place. I gotta tell you all, under any poster guidelines we setup for community moderation, the namecalling and insults have got to go. And if I do end up serving as a mod in the future, I’m gonna hand out temp bans like crazy on that stuff until we’re done with that part as a forum.
No. That was incidental. I looked up the thread and that was a screenshot from a post otatop made.
But, it is true that my bans handed out to each of them, all less than 24 hrs, all as fairly and quickly as I could do in my best efforts, were a catalyst for CW leaving. That was part of the point that otatop was making there when he pointed at CW.
The last few days there have been a lot of posts about times at 2p2 and 1+ yr ago here and some people are really stretching or worse the way certain events went down.
I dont care how keed or ikes posted on 2p2 years ago, or to relitigate cuse leaving, but we don’t have to create new narratives about known history.
You’re probably right. I am still salty about those events.
What I’ve been saying about Keeed and CN is about their current posting. I defended CN on 2p2 and caught flak from Fly about it. (well, not defended so much as asked him a question like he was a person - and that was enough to catch hell from Fly.)
Reporting what people said about other people is a technique of our stenographic press, so there are going to be some in this forum who will interpret doing so as a way of saying what you believe without saying what what you believe.
That may be unfair, but a lot of bad faith actors, not just here or 2+2 but everywhere around social media, have ruined online political discussion for everyone. I love the Socratic method, but a bunch of idiots JAQing off have ruined it.
I will affirmatively say that I don’t CN was deplorable on 2p2. I think most people here were wrong about him then and that’s part of why it’s true that he hasn’t really changed all that much, if at all.
It just seems when we relitigate 2p2 stuff or cuse or whatever we get stick in loops/“on sides” forever. Oh, you defended cn on 2p2 years ago? Well someone might bring it up to score points. It’s just so reductive.
