Disagree with the BH ban, but not worth people throwing a fit and turning this into another proxy fight.
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This is literally the first thing I have done as a moderator besides a post or two encouraging someone to be nicer, and I avoid this thread like the plague. Iâm not really out here trying to use âwhatever power I haveâ to take swipes at people.
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Thatâs not what happened. Like at all. IIRC PC originally permed him. Sabo then lost his vote that he literally demanded.
He got like 4 hours off, btw.
I dont think Haywood should be banned, but I hate their style of posting. They didnât debate. They didnât respond to people who responded to them. They arenât really here for a discussion, even if they are making a lot of posts.
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Itâs not âmisinformationâ, itâs just that you disagree with it.
See I would consider this much more âbad faithâ posting than anything BH posted, since itâs a bullshit technicality designed to obscure the argument. Itâs a âwell #actually did you know REPUBLICANS were the anti-slavery party?â type of non-argument via factoid.
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Maybe you could refrain from making shit up? I confirmed the vote to permaban sabo before re-banning him. I donât care about him at all and have never sparred with him that I can remember.
Look, if you want to make a âsphere of influenceâ or pathway for tanks or whatever all argument, then make one, but donât be surprised about people pointing out shared borders when thatâs the literal crux of the claim.
Disagree with the BH ban too. Though there should be containment threads for arguments because the main thread is more about news and updates and arguments can ruin that.
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Ok, whatever. Re-ban Sabo/BH if you feel strongly about it RM.
Canât we at least do this petty shit on a Friday, as is tradition?
At least then I have the weekend to look forward to.
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The guy was not only wrong, he wasnât engaging anyone. He got a bunch of substantive responses to his nonsense and proceeded to repost the same youtoob video. For which he got 4 hours off from the forum. Chill out people.
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Youâre trying to take advantage of Keedâs tantrum to overturn a permaban.
Pathetic.
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The argument of shared borders with NATO is an argument about having a large, difficult to defend frontier. Pointing out that Russia shares like a 50km border with Norway at like the North fucking Pole is not an honest attempt to engage with that argument.
Itâs not up to a moderator to determine who is âwrongâ let alone ban someone for it.
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that wasnât the whole argument was it now? Thereâs turkey since the 50s, more since 2004, come on now
Turkey doesnât border Russia.
Turkey bordered the USSR from 1951 to 1991 while in NATO
oh and I forgot Poland in 1999 again.
We have a lot of constructive back and forth on the forum, but we also have a repeating pattern where a single thread gets blown up when one poster comes in an drops some kind of âopposing viewâ and there is an explosion of people presenting all the counterarguments and then suddenly that thread is exclusively about that. Itâs also a repeating pattern where these situations correspond to someone coming in an dropping some already thoroughly debunked, often conservative Fox News sourced, garbage talking points. We need a way to deal with that stuff because it impacts the quality of the forum. It think weâve already gone round and round on this but I donât think every idea is worthy of serious debate just because it popped into someoneâs head or they saw it on Fox News. Are black people really inferior? Letâs debate it seriously!
The problem is not posters who post âopposing viewsâ, even where those views are dumb, itâs the small group of posters who canât let anything go, ever, and continue to yell at a single poster until they turn every thread into aids and we have to have endless containment threads or ban people with opposing views. And CaffeineNeeded and Wookie are two of the major offenders in this regard.
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