I find it weird that you want a forum where there is no back-and-forth debate. What was the “problem”? That someone posted a take that didn’t line up with forum consensus? And then came back and tried to defend his position after getting a ton of heat for it.
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I eyeballed it, it just seems like a somewhat less smart version of the OP. If it went on for days or hundreds of posts with no point, ok I guess. My main test here is is it being posted in good faith, and if it is, the level for banning gets higher than being wrong. Maybe being obtusely wrong over a long period of time would have been good enough for me but banning him now is a little pre-crimish. Just my opinion.
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A lot of the counters were not in “good faith.”
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Most were. Being snarky isn’t bad faith if you’re including an actual argument. Pointing out that Russia has had shared borders with NATO since the founding of the alliance certainly isn’t.
ok and @catfacemeowmers sabo wasn’t banned because river man didn’t like him. He was permabanned and it was unilaterally overturned by a mod throwing a hissy fit on his way out.
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@Riverman if you want to ban people because you don’t like the content they’re posting you need to start a poll. BillHaywood didn’t break any rules.
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He posted the same exact misinformation YOUTOOBZ repeatedly Jesus fucking Christ
No, he was given a 2 week ban by PC, which wookie turned into a perma without community approval. I raised this issue with Riverman and he didn’t bother to respond. He can start a poll for Sabo too.
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wat
Uh, I’m pretty sure there was a vote with broad consensus on banning him.
Disagree with the BH ban, but not worth people throwing a fit and turning this into another proxy fight.
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This is literally the first thing I have done as a moderator besides a post or two encouraging someone to be nicer, and I avoid this thread like the plague. I’m not really out here trying to use “whatever power I have” to take swipes at people.
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That’s not what happened. Like at all. IIRC PC originally permed him. Sabo then lost his vote that he literally demanded.
He got like 4 hours off, btw.
I dont think Haywood should be banned, but I hate their style of posting. They didn’t debate. They didn’t respond to people who responded to them. They aren’t really here for a discussion, even if they are making a lot of posts.
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It’s not “misinformation”, it’s just that you disagree with it.
See I would consider this much more “bad faith” posting than anything BH posted, since it’s a bullshit technicality designed to obscure the argument. It’s a “well #actually did you know REPUBLICANS were the anti-slavery party?” type of non-argument via factoid.
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Maybe you could refrain from making shit up? I confirmed the vote to permaban sabo before re-banning him. I don’t care about him at all and have never sparred with him that I can remember.
Look, if you want to make a “sphere of influence” or pathway for tanks or whatever all argument, then make one, but don’t be surprised about people pointing out shared borders when that’s the literal crux of the claim.
Disagree with the BH ban too. Though there should be containment threads for arguments because the main thread is more about news and updates and arguments can ruin that.
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Ok, whatever. Re-ban Sabo/BH if you feel strongly about it RM.