About Moderation (old original thread)

Baiting you? Honestly the only reason I hadn’t posted it myself was not wanting to continue the drama.

That’s the entirety of the PM. I can’t link to the CoC thread anymore, but you literally made fun of that request. You then left for a few weeks afterwards, and it wasn’t because you felt so “comfortable” about what you had been part of.

You could have chosen a path that would have led to a solution at any time. You still can! Seriously, quit with this pathetic drama bullshit and shoot me a message.

If you don’t want to go that route, I don’t see much of a path forward that doesn’t involve some sort of big confrontation about it, and that’s not what I want to do to this community. Apparently, it’s what you want though.

No, not banned, just harassed until he quits.

It seems obvious this is how you feel about critics of your moderatorship, that there has been a campaign to harass you and make the job difficult in the hopes you would quit.

Seems obvious? It’s been explicitly stated.

The solution is: you’re ikes, everyone knows you’re ikes, you being ikes does not particularly signify and no special arrangements should be made in light of the fact that you’re ikes. The dragging-out of this entirely unremarkable matter is an exclusive function of your simmering dissatisfaction with that solution. You, apparently, want Something Done about people noting that you’re ikes.

That’s what you want and I don’t think you should get it. There are probably ten thousand message boards you could go to and post about politics, and nobody there would say you’re ikes. You don’t want that. You want to post here - a continuation of a community you lost a bet regarding your right to participate in - and you want to do so under the colour of some special protection where everybody must know that you’re ikes, but be forbidden to say it.

That’s what you want. And people are prepared to swear blind you’ve improved as a poster lmao.

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It’s because he has, and it’s not blind. What seems to be blind is the enduring animus.

I dunno, I feel like it’s more a sort of in-group/out-group dynamic thing where he’s temporarily at odds with a loose coalition of posters you (and various other attestors of his Damascene conversion) find yourself in conflict with. The incessant needling and instinctive line-treading misconstruals of others’ intent etc remain, but they look good to you now because he’s inside the tent pissing out, instead of outside pissing in.

Or, I dunno. Maybe the guy who can’t stop trying to make his former handle on a different site a community-defining Big Issue is actually a really good poster and I just can’t see it. Impossible to say.

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No, I meant what I said. His posting and politics have improved dramatically outside of any of the feuding.

I didn’t suggest otherwise.

Then don’t put an artificial qualifier on my statement that I did not intend, thanks.

Saying “Yeah but you’re wrong though, here’s why” isn’t qualifying your statement.

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I didn’t know he was Ikes until someone explicitly pointed it out, even though I had been dropping a few tidbits here and there about him whenever I was reminded of him.

I don’t particularly care, either.

Oh goddamn tell me about it, mate. I didn’t know CaffeineNeeded existed until I found out ikes was back.

This is why you don’t know his posting has improved a ton, apparently. Don’t accuse me of being the blind one if you weren’t alerted to him outside of the Captains thread.

I can’t continue this conversation with such an obviously uninformed or bad faith position. I didn’t start this. I didn’t demand any special treatment. I didn’t ask jbro to be banned. I never demanded that no one called me ikes. I don’t want this drama. You’ve concocted a fantasy to base your position on.

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I used to not really pay attention to who was posting, I just chose to respond to those posts that represented a POV I wanted to engage with.

To ‘swear blind’ simply means to avow emphatically. It’s, I dunno the official term, but it’s like, conditionally self-imprecatory? It’s basically May I Be Struck Blind If ( ¬X). Possibly another lesson in various dialects of English Around The World.

Beyond that, I’ve observed his posting, I’ve interacted with him, I’ve made my judgement on whether his posting has improved (it hasn’t), I don’t care if his politics have improved (they probably haven’t, don’t care, I’d feel much the same about an emphatically socialist version of ikes), I don’t remember where I found out he was ikes but it looooong predated any of the captains tomfoolery etc.

Good. In response to the remaining declarative statements:

  • Yes you did
  • Yes you did
  • Never said you did; don’t care
  • Yes you did
  • Yes you do
  • No I haven’t

Feels great getting the last word, what with you simply being unable to continue the conversation and oh my goodness &c.

Cool, I appreciate the like roninesque aspect of all that.

We come again to the intractable problem of polysemy. We don’t know what you mean by ‘trolling’ in your question. We’re not sure what Chads meant in his characterisation. We don’t like to bet on the chances that they’re the same.

Prrrrobably Chads was referring specifically to concern trolling in his usage (feel free to correct, PC). Assuming that, then I’ll happily co-sign. CN is not legitimately fearful regarding his safety or that of his wife. Yes, goofy! I’m the mindreader! I’m the amazing psychic who has cast off the shackles of What The Words On The Screen say and has looked beyond! Many are doubtful of my prophetic utterances. But they will be purified.

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Read every post today, but thanks for the condescension sir.

Then how did you so completely misread the post?

I just want to be 100% sure of your position here.

You believe that Ikes being here is hostile and inappropriate, largely due to posts made in threads like the 2p2 politics thread about Trayvon Martin circa 2012?