About Moderation (old original thread)

Can we just vote on whether or not to ban him and move on to the next grievance?

I mean, Iā€™m pretty sure youā€™ve banned jman or goofy for rehashing e.g. jalfreziā€™s ghetto blaster takes. What is rehashing old feuds vs. what is warning the community about a bad member? Should we just grant a license to them to follow jal around and ā€œwarn the communityā€ about him?

Explain how his presence is hostile.

Has Ikes/CN posted any abhorrent views since he has been here(I honestly donā€™t know but personally have not seen any. Maybe a lot I disagree with but nothing I would say makes his posting deplorable.)? Is it possible he has reformed his beliefs some? Iā€™ve said many times I had horrific political beliefs 15 years ago. Maybe my sins make me unredeemable as well?

Is it possible Ikes from 5+ years ago should not be welcome here but current day Ikes should be? I mean he wasnā€™t exactly banging minors, handicapped women and talking troubled people into killing themslves.

Presumably CN is embarrassed by his past behavior? idk, he was never banned from our old venue because lol wookie. I think a mea culpa from him might lower the temperature a bit.

Weā€™ve had what, 2-3 posters banned in the past three days? Can we all just chill the fuck out and take a raincheck on more bannings for like the rest of the weekend? Or else just vote on it and get it over with? I donā€™t know man, this shit is so exhausting.

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Is this all based on 10 year old post or has he posted anything racist on this site?

Seriously.

I canā€™t believe some of you get so worked up about this shit.

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I never read the 2p2 politics forum 5+ years ago, but it sounds like a user has some terrible views 5-10 years ago, now seems to have changed some of those views (or doesnā€™t publicly espouse them) and we need a referendum on whether or not we should be constantly reminding others what this person said 5-10 years ago?!

I too was also a shittier person 10 years ago

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Itā€™s because itā€™s not a sensible way to run an internet forum. Letting everyone perpetually air their opinions on other posters means that any thread becomes a re-re-re-litigation of, ā€œBy the way, this guy thinks that calling people ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  is hunky dory despite knowing full well that the few women here think itā€™s pretty offensive and sexist.ā€ followed by ā€œBut NO, itā€™s not sexist, and this bigot hates the English and has no respect for linguistics!ā€

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Followed, to complete the rendition, by you retreating into silence before re-emerging some time later with no actual response and your stance unaltered.

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Not like you have altered your stance either. Not sure why I am obligated to take you at your word but you donā€™t have to take skydiver at hers.

You advocate for sowing a lot of discord for the vague benefit of a people that might not even exist in this tiny community. I donā€˜t think itā€˜s worth it. You are blowing this way oit of proportion. He isnā€˜t a pedophile predator that other people have a legitimate interest in being warned about.

Not generally considered necessary when you won the argument.

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Iā€™m touched by your sincere concern of safety of others PC. When I PMā€™d you about my concerns about my safety based on various posts here and my experience elsewhere, what was your reaction again? Was it to take it seriously, or was it to go over to your little clique and make fun of it?

The nice little piece of symmetry here is that the example post I used was literally a jbro post, who detailed how he hoped my disabled wife was suffering. She still does suffer by the way. Every fucking day. Thanks for asking.

This is more backfilled nonsense to justify your position towards me. Youā€™ve known or suspected that I was ikes for what, 6 or so months now? Probably more? Coincidently suddenly youā€™ve come to a realization that any seemingly any personal attack towards me is fair game after jbro got banned for a personal attack towards me? How convenient.

You had months to get the answers you supposedly want by simply asking me. Seriously, you could have thrown me a PM any time. Instead, you chose to be hostile and melodramatic instead of actually looking for a real solution at any time. My PMs are still open btw. Iā€™ll be happy to talk any time.

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This has come up before. Since youā€™re in the mood for chattinā€™ about it again - bringing it up voluntarily all unprompted and all - would you care to post that PM? I ask because thereā€™s been quite some contention over its contents and the specific reactions various people had to it. It might be useful to get as much of it on the public record as possible. That way itā€™s not all this you-said-Chads-said stuff.

We want this to be a place where grievances from 10+ years ago, done by people largely in their late teens and early 20s are litigated forever? Really? If this place lasts the next 5,10+ years are you really going to be bringing stuff up from 2p2 thatā€™s then 20+ years old when itā€™s not relevant?

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Is this meant as a response to me? You see the part I bolded and your post is way after my ā€œetaā€. And did you read any of the words in the 2nd paragraph?

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Iā€™m really miffed about this. I put the O/U on how many words you read between both Nonoā€™s post and mine at 17.

Lol at the time spent arguing on whether or not a poster who has improved his posting from 10 fucking years ago and who also wasnā€™t banned then for bad posting but should be banned now because of that posting.

Folks here are too entrenched in arguing the bottom 10% of what they feel is wrong with this place when they should be enjoying themselves with a pretty damn good community.

I can start reeking havoc for you guys if you desperately need something to complain about.

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