About Andor, and lesser Star Wars things

Cool, thanks. I intended to keep watching anyway, but that’s something to look forwards to.

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I’ll bury this under a spoiler because Soulman is working on Clone Wars and it does contain a CW spoiler. Looks promising though.

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Appreciate the spoiler!

It’s a teaser for Tales of the Empire, debuting soon (the spoiler is in the more specific plot description). Tales of the Jedi is recommended quick viewing by the way, glad they went back to the concept. You could watch those episodes whenever; one of the plots shows the background of Ahsoka and the other shows the story of Dooku turning to the dark side. Surprisingly, the Dooku eps are the highlight between the two. But it’s a series a person could knock out in less than two hours IIRC.

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The answer is clearly 12. The 9 main skywalker movies, Solo, Rogue One, and The Clone Wars.

The Bad Batch came to its conclusion. It’s not what I expected in the finale, but I definitely enjoyed it. It was a great series overall. I’m definitely hoping they keep it up with some of these animated series, especially if they keep the seasons relatively short and on point (clone wars was definitely about 60 episodes too long).

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I’m happy that in the finale everyone lived, even though the show built tension so that fan discussion before centered on who was going to die, because people felt the show was obviously going in that direction.

I would definitely watch a show about what the epilogue was pointing towards.

The Acolyte drops tomorrow. I haven’t pinned a whole ton of hope to it, but it sure would be nice if a show set outside the Skywalker Saga was great. I do tend to find a bit more optimism about what a show’s quality will be when there isn’t a clear way to market it to viewers outside of the core SW fanbase and it manages to get made anyway.

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The Acolyte has me hooked so far. I assume the incel crowd is whining about yet another show with no straight white males to focus on.

Figured out before the reveal of Mae that Osha wasn’t the killer. Does Sol know more about why Mae is hunting Jedi or is it something his colleagues have kept from him?

I too watched the first 2 episodes of The Acolyte and thought it was OK. There wasn’t anything lore breaking or characters being inexplicably dumb to advance the plot which is unusual for Star Wars these days. I would also say that the second episode is better than the first.

I’ll continue watching.

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“She can’t possibly be alive. Impossible.”
“Ma’am, this is Star Wars.”

Sounds like they do absurd resurrections off-camera too.

That had to be intentional and ironic. Right? Right?

There’s no part of me that really thinks the creatives at SW feel weird about the way they’ve basically abolished the notion of permanent death.

And thanks to “somehow, Palpatine returned,” there isn’t even a way to believe that some deaths are so sacred in canon that they wouldn’t cross the line in touching them. Every single resurrection is on the table. Looking forward to the post-ROTS Mace Windu/Plo Koon team-up series.

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I don’t think any death should be sacred. You just need a good story to tell that requires a resurrection. Bringing back Palpatine les to a bad story, but the backstory has led to good stuff with The Mandalorian and The Bad Batch. Bringing back Darth Maul led to some good stuff.

There were good Maul episodes, but it was all fruit of the poisonous tree and not worth it.

A story with a significant combat element signaling to every thinking fan that their reaction to every single death should be “I don’t care, death doesn’t count here” is bad storytelling. SW creative is full of hacks who are committing fraud by posing as professional writers, and one of their go-to moves is taking additional mortgages out on past stories to devalue those in the desperate hope that their button-mashing will provide a passable story for the current project.

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They’ve for sure devalued death. Characters don’t stay dead and what should be a fatal wound isn’t. It has happened so much that when the Jedi played Carrie Anne Moss took a knife to the chest and died my first thought was “Is that a fatal wound and is she actually dead?”

I’m largely divorced from the larger mythology-history. So there was a resurrection-bfd

Just entertain me. If you can slide something in from the side that connects and works (Andor) then even better.

I’m so lost in the alternate universe comic books and alternate timeline Star Trek. Once any of things expand they fall apart anyhow unless they were conceived and storyboarded over the long run.

Doesn’t “just entertain me” include being able to deliver you a story with all major plot components in place and not fatally damaged? That’s the thing; it’s not just what it does to prior stories - though obviously it bugs the shit out of me that they would take a gigantic dump all over the end of the original trilogy in the way they did in The Rise of Skywalker - it’s also that if you watch today and actually believe that a character just died in front of you, it means you’re either new to the franchise or you’re a sucker who believes that Lucy is going to hold the football for you the whole way. And it’s kind of a big sacrifice to just not have kills be a believable plot device in a franchise where people are constantly trying to kill each other.

To be clear: I’m not even one of the Star Wars fans who hate-watches Star Wars. I think I’m more positive on the product than average, and I tend to talk myself into being optimistic about whatever stuff they’re coming out with. I liked The Acolyte episode two enough that I’m hoping this series works out well. I just have a particular rage boner for the nonsensical resurrection thing.

It’s better yes but once something gets spread over decades with different creatives and mfing executives my expectations are tempered.

And sometimes at item 5 someone screws the pooch so bad they have to hit the reset bottom or at least stop pretending.

Idk what property has done that well over 4-5 decades with huge changes in creatives and ownership.

So I can be perpetually frustrated or enjoy things as they are. I may rail if it’s especially dumb and inconsistent.