The majority of the stockpile is the old vaccine, which uses live attenuated smallpox and can kill you. The new vaccine is only like 10% of the stockpile, and the company that makes it is fairly small and was used to very predictable demand (orders coming in 1-3 years in advance to replenish stockpiles).
Before this outbreak, Bavarian Nordic was worth about 25% of what Moderna was worth pre-COVID, as a point of reference.
They need to partner up with someone and it may not happen unless/until corporations are worried about monkeypox and governments are leaning on them to partner up.
I donāt think we know yet, but despite the name chickenpox and monkeypox are completely different types of viruses. Chickenpox is a herpes family virus. Monkeypox is a poxviridae.
Fuck this country. Fuck this healthcare system. I have monkeypox symptoms and the doctor agrees I need to be seen and get a test ASAP and nobody will fucking let me come in to get tested. County health told me tests are widely available and any urgent care can do it, but that I should call first to make sure.
Urgent cares are telling me they wonāt do it, donāt come there.
Iām going to end up having to go to the ER, probably waste like 5 hours of my day, and pay out the ass for this, even though my symptoms are mostly mild and I donāt actually need any care - although Iād kill for an anti-itch cream that worked. Only getting tested for friends I was around to make sure that if Iām pozzed they can get the vaccine, one has a newborn. No way Iām going to be allowed to get treatment with a mild case when itās legit more than 120 pages of paperwork to get the anti-viral.
Oh and the people at urgent care answering the phone donāt know shit about this. One told me it has to be done at the hospital because itās bloodwork. I was like no itās a PCR test you swab it and send it to the lab, āWe donāt do that here.ā Website says thatās exactly what the fuck you do there, asshole.
The narrative around this is making every racist or homophobic person in the healthcare system who answers phones turn people away left and right. Fucking America, man. If thereās a way to fuck over a discriminated group or fuck up healthcare, we will do it, and if we can do both at once fuck yeah USA#1 forever.
Iām not but I was around my friend, his wife, and kids - and one is a newborn. Friend has bumps, newborn has one on his shoulder. Itās a coin toss whether I gave it to him or he gave it to me. Main issue here is if we have it, weāre worried about his baby, and it seems like getting tested is the move?
Symptoms, in order:
(edited symptoms out for privacy since CN has seen them now)
Basically the issue here is nobody wants to come into contact with someone with monkeypox so the only way to get a test seems to be to pay out the ass at the ER. Any suggestions? Guess I could expand the radius to urgent cares within a 60 minute drive.
Looks like ride it out is going to be the outcome here, nobody who isnāt legally required to see me if I walk in will see me, soā¦ yeah. USA#1
If not monkeypox, what? Like I canāt come up with anything else that would cause bumps like this, transmit from person to person, and cause the other symptoms. In theory some of the symptoms could be psychosomatic, but some like the headaches and neck stiffness I didnāt know could be attributed to monkeypox until I started experiencing them and looked it up.
I talked to a doctor from my primary care office on the phone and he listened to the symptoms and said I should definitely go get tested ASAP, but they wonāt let me come in.
He had to work today (lol I know), and I told him Iād do my best to get a test today. Not sure how hard heāll push on Monday. Looks like I canāt do anything until then. I may go into Philly for a test, there are some clinics there that do it, and theyāre a lot less likely to be homophobic and turn me away.
I called back and asked them to schedule me Monday and they said they canāt do the test there anyway. They reiterated urgent care or ER and sounded sympathetic but ultimately unwilling to give me any more help.
My favorite so far is the urgent care that told me they do not have swabs there. Like Iām 99% sure weāre talking about a fucking cotton swab! None of those to be found though!
In some of the new cases, monkeypox has caused people to develop what looks like a pimple or blister, rather than a widespread rash, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said in a briefing. In other cases, tiny bumps on the skin are the first or only indication of an infection, she said.
The CDC line right now is that testing is widely available, and there are no capacity issues. The local health department line is any urgent care can do it. The reality Iām experiencing is that nobody will see someone who says they have monkeypox symptoms. Or that urgent care centers have not received any info from county health or the CDC about how to deal with this.
Whether I have it or not, if itās this hard to get someone to give you a test, weāre undercounting by a massive amount.
Look maybe itās monkeypox, maybe itās not. Iād guess no but it is just a guess. Testing is absurdly rationed right now so thereās a good chance theyāll charge you for the visit and dc you anyways.
The messaging from CDC and my county is that testing is widely available, but itās possible the CDC and my county health department are full of shit. Or that the testing is available but theyāre rationing it tightly anyway.
Definitely not going to an ER at this point. Iām going to find a place in Philly and try to go in on Monday. There are some clinics that are in-network that say on their website that they do testing for monkeypox.
Alright, fair enough. Allergies would shock me, since Iāve had them my whole life and not had this before, and my buddy has very similar bumps but mild seasonal allergies - his wife gets them worse. The only time we were together before symptoms was with his wife and kids and my gf, so that parlay is exposure to an allergen then that only impacted him and me despite his wife and I being the ones that usually have similar seasonal allergies. Also the bumps are coming in day by day, so Iād need an ongoing exposure to the allergen. Some weird dermological thing would make sense, with the other symptoms just being unrelated, except for the ass pain.
But if most of the symptoms could come from a bunch of viruses, then thereās a good chance itās one of the others.
Until I found out my friend has similar bumps, and I had the sore throat and ass pain, I figured it was like 1 in 10,000 or something super low. Now it feels well over 1% but under 50%.
Itās just super annoying when the two foremost authorities I can speak to IRL - my doctor and my county health department - are like yes that sounds like it could be mp and you should absolutely get testedā¦ But I canāt.