2024 US Presidential Election (Taylor's Version)

Was 1992 Buchanan as anti-immigration as 2024 Trump?

I wasn’t paying nearly as much attention to politics then as I do now, so I don’t actually know.

He wanted to build a fence and have a five-year ban on legal immigration. He explicitly referred to it as an invasion and worried about whites becoming a minority.

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And then at the RNC he gave the “Culture War Speech”.

(@VoteForSocialists - that’s what the culture war is.)

In 1991 openly gay people or mixed races were still shocking. The movie Jungle Fever couldn’t even really be conceived and understood today. It’s as antiquated as Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner. There’s still a culture war, but the battle lines are at transgender now, which wasn’t even visible on the horizon back in those days - or even ten or fifteen years later.

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So slightly worse on the actual views, but much less widespread and accepted in the party?

Yeah, young people weren’t exactly being shepherded into watching Pat Buchanan content back in the 90s. Now it’s like if you watch a Mr. Beast video, the algorithm directs you to Nick Fuentes’s channel or whatever sewer Nazi is popular with the kids nowadays.

He’d be a completely “normal” Republican by today’s standards.

The walls were built in the 1990s. California famously had Prop 187 (and a Republican Governor) in 1994.

1996

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And that makes Joe Manchin mad and sad.

New — Joe Manchin, a staunch defender of the filibuster, tells us he WON’T endorse Kamala Harris now over her vow to gut the filibuster to codify Roe.

“Shame on her," Manchin, who is retiring at year’s end, said in the Capitol. “She knows the filibuster is the Holy Grail of democracy. It’s the only thing that keeps us talking and working together. If she gets rid of that, then this would be the House on steroids.”

Now that Harris has vowed to gut the filibuster on this issue, Manchin said he wouldn’t back her for president.

“That ain’t going to happen,” he said. “I think that basically can destroy our country and my country is more important to me than any one person or any one person’s ideology…I think it’s the most horrible thing.”

(x.com)

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Say it ain’t so

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Someone please tell me what they’re talking about on the Talk Tuah podcast lol

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Yeah, I like how you phrased this.

I think the internet and resulting changes to media explain a lot of this. In the late 90s and early 2000s, people still got their news from reputable mainstream sources, and they mostly consumed mainstream TV shows that were espousing more and more tolerant views.

So basically the conveyor belt meme with “I guess we doin tolerance now”.

And then facebook came along and the conveyor started spewing out a million different Pepe faces and we’ve been fucked in a sea of hatred and confusion ever since.

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Thangs and spitting on them I’d imagine.

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Yeah it’s just one of those progress not in a straight line things. Congrats Rogan bros on making a tooth in the saw.

When I see ‘talk tuah’ podcast I just can’t stop imagining Arnold Schwarzenegger saying it as some lame 90’s relationship advice. You just have to talk tuah!

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not sure about this, I think there’s a decent chunk of the party that would find him too centrist