2024 LC Thread

Yea, you get cut off, you hit the brakes for a few seconds and continue on your merry way, no big deal. It does help that the driving speeds are generally a lot slower though.

reading these comments some of you would not survive driving in DTLA

absolute chaos

near my neighborhood it’s a little bit less chaotic than that but people get shot for road rage all the god damn time, happened a street down from me a while back and I had rolled up right after it happened. all the guy that got shot did was brush the shooter’s car without realizing (he was drunk, but apparently there was no real damage), didnt stop, pulled up and just executed him on the spot, dont fw other drivers

True, I dislike tailgaters.

Speed limit was 65. I was doing 73. He was 20-25 feet behind me. If he was in a car, In wouldn’t have been able to see his headlights.

Also true. Usually, I get over when it’s safe to do so if someone wants to pass. But I don’t like people riding my ass.

I was a dick, sure. I asked who was the bigger dick.

I don’t.

Sure, but that 1.2 was from where the lane was added. By the time the passing was complete, it was maybe half a mile. If he had passed me, he would have had to cut over two lanes of traffic to hit the exit. Not easy with the number of cars on the highway.

I’ve flashed people, and been flashed before. I know why people do it.

Is it aggressive if the person has been on my ass for several miles?

A polite request would be made from a safe distance behind me.

ETA: His driving probably saved him 10 seconds of drive time since he ended up slowing down behind the other cars exiting.

Since you use the words “car” and “truck” interchangeably, it’s difficult to follow the action.

Also, LOL at the SUV not being able to overtake the car, and being too stupid or frozen to just drop back back behind the car and allow the truck behind to try his luck.

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What do you tell your kid about speeding?

Generally not to, but to still drive with traffic. I would be extremely shocked if she were a speed demon when I’m not around.

I didn’t. Car is being passed by SUV and truck. Actually, it was a truck as well, but I didn’t want to type truck #1 and truck #2.

I did overtake the car, I just didn’t get over as quickly as the truck would have liked. Maybe you should reread the story…

It was confusing enough the first two times I tried to get through it.

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I’m not a fan of the “drive with traffic” advice as it pertains to speeding. That’s the excuse of many an excessive speeder. That’s not to say that it is wrong.

You need me to draw a picture?

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The only thing Mexicans always get pissed about is if you make them slow down when they’re trying to overtake on a hill. Not even a major cut off, just anything that kills their momentum. My theory is because it makes them burn extra gas.

A gringo even got pissed at me about that in Mexico. So it’s definitely a cultural thing he picked up.

I’m not too worried about her being an excessive speeder. Driving significantly slower than the flow of traffic is also dangerous and I think it’s far more likely that she’s doing than than speeding excessively. You need to tailor your advice to your student.

When I was 17, and prone to trying to race the yellow lights, my dad said to me “accept the challenge to stop”. That was very good advice for me at the time. If I were prone to slam on the brakes when I should obviously have gone through, it would have been bad advice.

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That’s true. I can already see that my two will require very different advice.

I was driving my motorcycle as fast as it could go well before I was my children’s ages. I definitely needed different advice than my children do - though, I doubt it would have worked for me. I wasn’t that crazy, but lucky to still be in one piece I guess.

Driving culture is fascinating to me. In India there’s absolutely no taboo against cutting people off. If you can fit your butt in, you’re allowed, even it means they have to hit the brakes pretty hard. Just that one rule changes everything about how traffic flows.

Mongolia has some of the most aggressive drivers I’ve ever seen. Intersections are a wedge of cars playing chicken to go first, coming inches from hitting each other, exactly like getting out of my high school parking lot. But no one ever gets visibly pissed or even makes eye contact.

Feels like some places could actually use a little road rage to make the roads run smoother.

That’s what my daughter does at her middle school

Arizona does no vetting of new voucher schools. Not even if the school or the online school “provider” has already failed, or was founded yesterday, or is operating out of a strip mall or a living room or a garage, or offers just a half hour of instruction per morning. (If you’re an individual tutor in Arizona, all you need in order to register to start accepting voucher cash is a high school diploma.)

There is “nothing” required, said Michelle Edwards, the founder and principal of ARCHES and then of Title of Liberty, in an interview with ProPublica. It was “shocking how little oversight” the state was going to provide of her ESA-funded private school, Edwards said.

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By the definition I was using the other guy wasn’t being a dick. Aggressive, dangerous, impatient, sure, but I would argue being a dick requires doing something to negatively impact someone for the sole purpose of negatively impacting someone.

I’ve navigated through more lanes with less time. It’s actually quite easy. Also given your setup on the middle lane it sounds like that lane was clear beyond the three of you, the only reason that was difficult is because you made it difficult, and so it really should’ve only been one tough lane change to navigate. And given that he still made it across two lanes after you impeded it seems like that was always going to be a non-issue. Maybe you’re concerned because you think he’ll pass then slow down in front of you to find a gap in the right lane? But in my experience it’s easier to hit gaps you see ahead by speeding up than hit gaps behind by slowing down.

I’ve never flashed anyone but I drove with someone once who was a flasher and he never did it with any aggressive intent. So those people are out there.

Anyway you don’t need to take any of this to heart. You’ve got 90% of the forum on your side. I just felt I should explain the other perspective if I’m going to vote for it.

Being those things isn’t being a dick?

My actions didn’t affect him negatively at all. He still had to slow down enough to fully merge to the exit lane. Me getting over would mean he had to slow down in front of me to get into the exit lane. Either way, he exits the same time.

If the vote had been the opposite, so be it. He was on my ass trying to influence my behavior, and I tend not to reward that behavior. Be a courteous driver to me and I will be a courteous driver to you.

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I can get a reasonably accurate read on if the truck behind me in this scenario is going to do shit like this before the new lane is added. I regularly avoid the situation by anticipating it and staying out of their way for five seconds, then passing safely after they blow by me.

Other drivers are wild animals and your actions are much more likely to result in violence against you than to change their behavior.

It is not your job to disincentivize aggressive driving; attempting to do so will generally increase the likelihood that someone is hurt or dies. While the rules of the road determine who is legally responsible, I don’t think that who was the bigger asshole matters when there is a dead person who would be alive if you did things differently. Especially if that person is you.

Like this is way more dangerous and dipshit asshole behavior than someone who wants to drive faster than you think they should. :stabby:

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