Collectivism is superior to individualism
A global view of the world is superior to patriotism
Pacifism is superior to militarism
Inclusion is superior to nativism
Again Canada is no utopia and we have a long way to go on these ideals but if we are all still progressives its seems pretty obvious we want both nations to be more “Canadian” not more “American”. 
And told everyone that the cops are our friends
I had never heard of killer Mike until today which I think supports funcrushers point (maybe?). Music stopped being made in like 1997 in my mind. 
Lmao, he was protecting black owned businesses. Almost half, iirc, owned by women.
You can have pride in the work you’ve done without shitting on others.
You can be both.
Trumpism is an opportunity for everyone to join in the experience that we, as a nation, have foisted on others.
My turn to spam (and provide evidence of diversity).
Sad to learn that MAGA already got to my local card shop and they may have stopped providing abortions
It objectively is, though.
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Asking for a friend whose family is currently in rural Oregon. Where in the United States or anywhere in the world would you move your family after this election? Mother is an oncologist who would need to relicense. Daughter is trans so there’s concerns not just for healthcare but for gender affirming care.
Like doctor wise New Zealand is the best bet
Moved all the posts about other forums and banned the gimmick that started the conversation as it’s clearly an alt (possibly a banned user) created just to stir up this drama.
I didn’t even think of New Zealand! I’ve wanted to visit there for a while. Now I need them to go there so I can pop in to say hello.
They have different rules for various specialties, I only know about emergency medicine and that it would likely work for me
Just move to Portland. It’s literally right there.
I hear you but seems they’re intent on moving out of state.
But why? Oregon is about as good as it gets.
Pretty much all states have red parts. Moving to a very blue part of a very blue state seems like a best case scenario. And they wouldn’t have far to go. No need to get new license.
Seattle is pretty close. I was at the airport there recently and they actually had giant unisex bathrooms in the airport. Just a ton of stalls for anyone to use. Men, women, boys, girls. I thought I walked into the wrong one for a second. That seems like a good indicator of a trans-friendly city.
I hear Washington is on the menu.
There are only ~2 states where you can live in a rural area and be surrounded by liberals: Vermont and Hawaii. Any other state, no matter how ostensibly liberal, has vast Trumpy territory. Basically everywhere else, there’s a massive urban/rural divide. The Eastern and Western parts of Washington and Oregon, respectively, could hardly be more different despite being ostensibly in the same respective states.
For a female oncologist with a trans daughter wanting to move from rural Oregon, I can’t emphasize enough that the Portland metro should be Plan A. Mom won’t have to change any licensing, and the daughter won’t be any more at risk in Portland compared with Seattle, SF, LA, San Diego, or any other west coast urban center. Housing costs here are, in an objective sense, bad, but at the same time are the best of any city on the west coast. There are some land mines as you get further from the heart of the metro areas – like, don’t go to Newberg, OR, it’s an anti-trans shithole, and even Salem’s county went for Trump – but there’s no west coast metro area that’s going to be appreciably safer than Portland for them, and if they don’t believe that, then they’re feeding on too much right wing propaganda.
Hey I’ve had a shitty time lately and gonna take some time off I think 2 weeks is a good start, same on SPE.
