2024 LC Thread

Having grown up in the Seattle area (and with family still there) and now living in the Portland area, anywhere they’d feel safe fleeing rural Oregon to in Washington will have a close counterpart in Oregon with a lower cost of living, unless you have a specialty like aerospace engineering that requires you live in Washington. Oncologists are needed everywhere.

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Wife and I moved to central Illinois a couple months ago and have been pretty happy with things here. Very reasonable CoL, trans friendly laws, several cities with active LGBT communities, and a governor already taking a strong stance against Trump. Only one trip to Chicago so far but it seems like a really awesome, world-class city too.

And even living in a fairly rural area, we feel much more kindness and respect from the conservative crowd than we did back in PA.

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Don’t do it Grue, keep with us in the post mortem thread where we speculate endlessly on why Dems lost and attack everyone else. That’s what’s best for your mental health.

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@RiskyFlush I agree with all that’s said about Portland. Elsewhere in the US it is hard to imagine a place where it’s easier to be trans than LA, but I bet NYC and SF are comparable. All obviously extraordinarily expensive.

Internationally I really have no idea, but I think that many of the places I would personally want to go are pretty difficult to get permanent residency, work etc. I hope things don’t get to the point where being trans is enough to get asylum in a place like Switzerland. Maybe that’s where we’re headed, but I do believe that California will be safe in at least the near-term future.

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Oregon isn’t blue. Oregon is a couple of blue cities surrounded by pissed off rural red country side. There are pictures of the Klan marching in Ashland back before color pictures.

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Blue state has a meaning that is commonly understood. Oregon consistently votes Dem for pres, has two Sem senators and mostly Dem representatives in the house. That’s clearly blue.

Yes, cities are blue and rural areas are red. That describes most states.

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This basically describes all of America.

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Australia, New Zealand or the UK.

All have their own problems and issues with trans rights. none are perfect. But I can’t emphasise enough the difference that living in a country with a functioning democracy and public health systems would make.

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No one wants to go to Canada?

I appreciate the suggestions. I’ll relay them (and Portland).

Agreed on these two, but I will give a shoutout to western Massachusetts as well.

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I was thinking about Mass as well. They’ve got all Dem reps, right? Gerrymandered AF, or just no real super Trumpy parts.

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Yes, as does all of New England, even the northern Maine district that Trump won.

The only Republican politician in DC from New England is Susan Collins.

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Native American reservations are another category of rural majority democrat

Biden protected Bears Ears and Grand Escalante. Navajo country loves him and the dems. Now those National Monuments are fucked again

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https://x.com/minakimes/status/1855762366970941872

This. This commercial has been bugging the crap out of me. Why are the kids listening in the first place? Why do they keep listening? What double entendre is “Ooh, it’s glowing” supposed to imply?

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She’s my wife

Yeah a friend of mine lives there and it seems like all his friends are queer and/or trans and they live openly with multiple social locations and groups

Like there’s at least one gay strip club there. Not that the spaces are all sexualized like that, but just that usually the metro area needs to be a lot larger and denser to have one or more of those

Public school probably goat in Mass whether you’re cis or trans

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