You pretty much nailed it IMO.
Itās a mortal lock simplicitus will be soon posting about how the courts will save us.
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I mean this is literally 90% of why it played out as it did, and why we were turbofucked this cycle anyway. There was no good way to message this, the average voter DGAF that we had a softer landing than other countries and will be annoyed at whoever even tries to frame it that way.
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He was elected in 2016 in a zero inflation environment.
He was elected because Americans want a dictator. It has little to do with inflation.
I find the oddest thing about this is that abortion passed like 95% of its tests last night. I donāt understand how both of these results are possible.
Clearly, an appeal to machismo must be made if we are going to have any chance going forward.
Today I announce
Rodrigues '28: āAināt no woman gonna tell us what to doā
Secondary slogan
Rodrigues '28 : āFuck it, Iāll just give you whatever you want. Ponies for all!ā
I think people here deeply, deeply underestimate how irritated a chunk of bidenās 2020 voting bloc was about how the genocide in Palestine is being handled - Almost all of the progressive feeds Iād followed since ~2016 had been losing their minds about it this last year. Itās deeply unpopular with young people as well, and the clampdown on campuses and social media (and really the whole media/web) tilting to a very particular view about the topic (that seemed very much in lock step with the administrationās view) isnāt particularly great for turning out the vote.
That combined with āthe economy is fine, actuallyā messaging going on much of bidenās term was completely tone deaf. And of course letting him go out there against Trump was the nail in the coffin. Kind of flabbergasted looking back with hindsight thatās the route they decided to take.
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Seriously though, running a half latino with a latino last name that presents as white is probably the least bad suggestion Iāve seen in the post mortem.
But really, can somebody explain what happened? I thought women were turning out at an almost +10 clip and polling for Kamala at about the same numbers. Why didnāt this pan out?
Like, I want to see crosstabs, and I also never want to think about this shit again.
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I wouldnāt say zero. It is a shitty spot to not be able to say that Biden did great things for the American economy, and that our post-covid inflation/landing was managed as well as or better than the other industrialized nations of planet earth. You canāt say it because you need poor folks to vote for you, and nothing is more obnoxious than telling a poor person that your portfolio is killing it. The other side is unburdened by this restriction.
But also, more than one thing can be true at the same time (believe it or not). Tucker is a fucking freak and a seriously weird dude, but while completely cringe, heās right that a huge chunk of America wanted daddy to come home and give them a vigorous spanking. Now, in reality, they really want daddy to come home and spank the shit out of the icky brown/trans people, but if they catch a couple paddles to their tender backsides, so be it.
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The amount of young white women congregating around the Trump campaign rally last night was really disconcerting.
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Eh, I dunno. For sure it seems like the youngsters do love 'em some fascism, but again I think weāre all vastly overestimating the average voterās info level. There are a zillion people who just said āRepublicans better for economy make eggs cheapā and pulled the lever. Tens of millions of people voted for Trump who probably couldnāt tell you two things about his platform or Kamalaās.
I pretty firmly believe that weād have lost easily to a Romney type republican candidate, or even an emergency insert of JD if Trump had taken that bullet to the neck.
I donāt know what to say other than this is just the most short sided of short sidedness. Youāre upset over Bidenās handling of Palestine, so you vote in the guy who is clearly best buds with Bibi and going to do everything he can to eliminate the West Bank?
Ok sure thing guy, great idea. Go for it.
Like, what? How does that make a single iota of sense?
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Iām just telling you what Iāve seen in the last ~13 months. It is definitely a thing. It wouldnāt take them āvoting for the other guyā but even a small single % dip in turnout from 2020 over it can be catastrophic, 2020 was incredibly narrow. It is just my hypothesis, Iām sure smarter people than me will look at the polling and the final results and come to their conclusion about it.
Yeah, I brought that up a couple times earlier this year as a reason I was afraid Biden/Harris would lose a lot of normally reliable Dem votes. I donāt have it in my top three reasons for the loss, but I donāt think itās insignificant.
They were fucked there, too, really. I know staunchly liberal Jews who didnāt want to vote for Harris because she had the gall to say anything that was pro-Palestinian and I know liberal non-Jews who didnāt want to vote for Harris because she had supportive things to say about Israel. I donāt know how most voted, though I do know one my wifeās Jewish friends (weāre Jewish, btw) who didnāt vote for her because of the administrationās pro-Israel stance, so thatās a little different, I guess. At least he was in New York, so it didnāt matter aside from the popular vote - I think I heard he wouldāve voted for her if he was in a swing state.
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Nah, he won in 2016 because he ran on an overly simplistic populist message and Clinton was hilariously unpopular and ran a dogshit campaign. That was 95% a democratic fumble, 5% Trump finding some untapped potential in the electorate.
He lost in 2020 because he did fuck all for 4 years, COVID hit, and people were fucking exhausted of the constant chaos he brought.
But then all the things dlk9s said, plus the fact that we have the memories of goldfish, and the motherfucker is back.
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They love the merch too, donāt forget that.
He lost an election, so Iām not buying that itās just āAmerica wants dictator Trumpā. I think it mostly boils down almost entirely inflation and immigration. Either as the direct reason, or because it provided cover to come home to daddy.
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Short sighted, as in, you struggle to see beyond what is immediately in front of you.
Me or them? Im not sure what this means?
The saying is āshort sightedā, not āshort sidedā.
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