2024 Election POST MORTEM

Wish I had stopped here:

As of the present count, Trump got fewer votes than he did in 2020, suggesting he was far from unbeatable.

The caveat is necessary because the author knows that Trump will end up with more votes than in 2020, but then he just acts like it can be taken at face value. Doesn’t really improve from there.

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The same cynical bullshit is posted here daily, ad nauseum, and rarely called out.

I wonder what the difference is?

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yep it was gonna take a Bill Clinton level candidate or better to overcome the incumbency disadvantage, instead we got a slightly below average candidate in Kamala. There’s only so much strategizing that can outweigh an average candidate.

In my lifetime the ranking goes something like

  1. Obama
  2. Clinton (Bill)
  3. Trump

2020 had no business being anywhere as close to what it ended up being and winning the popular vote as a Republican is genuinely tough to do.

I have feelings about what Dems should do going forward, but they’re the same “Dems should do exactly what I’ve always thought they should do” biased nonsense that everyone else is spewing.

But I will say that I’ve had my mind changed about one very specific economic point, related to this:

In particular, I’ve been praising the post-COVID U.S. recovery because I believed (and believe) that given the choice between:

  • 10-15% of people losing their jobs and suffering all of the attendant hardships, while 85-90% of people continue living like normal.
    vs.
  • We maintain a historically low unemployment rate, while 100% of people suffer higher prices.

The second was the obvious goal.

In other words, I thought it was better to spread the cost over everyone rather than concentrating enormous costs on a minority. I still believe that, but that’s obviously wrong, at least from a political standpoint. You can absolutely make life miserable for 10-25% of the population and dominate elections. (I’m solely talking about economics here, but obvious analog to identifying minorities as enemies.)

Anyway, I’m now wondering how far this goes. For example, price controls are (most economists would agree) an absolutely terrible policy - yes, they limit costs for those people who can obtain the product/service, but they hinder supply so much that some people are simply excluded from the market altogether. In aggregate, bad. Following the same logic as inflation, though, price controls are a good thing:

  • You make 70-90% of people happy because they’re paying a low price and they can point to your price controls as having achieved that low price.
  • You have 10-30% of people completely without food/water/shelter/whatever, but their voting bloc isn’t large enough to matter.

It’s really disappointing to see bad policies be so popular.

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I mean, you all seemed to not read my actual part of that post.

I said it was hitting me in the feels. Why do you assume that I believe any of the stories?

You don’t?

https://x.com/ArtOfDialogue_/status/1854995491055935904?t=zfEe1k4GAlyCWH8msxe7zA&s=19

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Current House predictions are R+1 - R+5.

If Dems win all current seats they are currently behind by less than a percentage point, they would need to win two of CA 13, 41, or 45 where they currently trail by 3 for a majority

So just read that Vance said that they would interlink Nato support with embracing US values meaning if the EU goes after X the US will withhold Nato support. Fuck them all. Where is a planet killing asteroid when you need one?

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Working on it

Murals are for closers

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A competent debater could easily go on Rogan and explain everything to him and treat him like a witness on the stand until you get him to admit that Trump is a piece of shit and a disaster. Instead of him asking all the questions, you would put the questions back on him. What do you think about Trump being on Epstein island? Do you know what happened with Trump university? Did you know that Trump forced his wife to have an abortion? Do you understand that when Trump says “XYZ” that he is invoking language used by Hitler? Are those your values? How do you think that would make you feel if you were x minority?

Also does that penguin youtuber guy with the long hair not do politics? he seems like the absolute perfect candidate/personality for our side.

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I don’t think Charlie does a lot of politics but I don’t watch him regularly.

Dude got outdebated by sneako.

I like the guy but Moist should stick to lukewarm takes and video games.

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https://x.com/BenBlippenstein/status/1855029589480710305?t=QaDugbuqUVzwfL8oqyMlIg&s=19

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47 posts were merged into an existing topic: 2024 LC Thread: Name That Tune

don’t really need him to debate just to do “You are in a cult” videos making fun of MAGA. i know i have seen him making fun of red pill stuff. that is how i know about him.

Are you implying that I’m a facebook boomer?

Star Wars also hit me in the feels (parts of it), doesn’t mean I think it’s real. LMAO.

If I want to feel a little schadenfreude with fake bullshit, isn’t that better than it actually happening and it hurts real people? Which is actually probably going to happen.

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Can’t wait for the news that Skys salary for political campaigns really came from a foreign govt

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