2024 Election POST MORTEM

I think corporations make much better villains than billionaires.

Dont know if its wise to be villainizing guys like Pritzker at this point either. Reforming left-wing media is gonna require tons of capital. And we can still keep going full throttle on the real assholes like Musk and Bezos.

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I like this too:

If Dem elites feel like this is somehow improper, they need to get the true lesson of the last 30 years of Republican politics: decorum is for losers. Read any of the interviews with the undecided or disaffected voters who decided this election. Think what it would take to get a political fact to stick in their head and survive the talk radio/podcast propaganda. Act accordingly.

You have to smack people in the face with it. Democrats are giving voters way too much credit. The electorate is full of uneducated, misinformed, overworked, confused phone addicts who get their news from social media. You have to make it easy for them.

And this needs to start with the policy itself. Work backwards. Design the policy so people will be able to understand it and connect it back to Democrats. That means keeping it simple and branding it whenever possible. If you have a kid, you get a check in the mail. That’s it. No layers upon layers of complexity and bureaucracy and means testing. No hiding it away in a tax return. Send a check in the mail. And be proud of it! Give it a name so people know YOU did it. Ideally something catchy like Obamacare.

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The corporations fund all of the politicians, though. This is really the core of the problem. I don’t believe that grassroots campaign can really deal with the scope of it either anymore, especially now that the Supreme Court has ruled in the last year that bribery is essentially legal as long as you can frame it as a “gift”

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Post mortem my friend shared from Reddit. Tracks with how I’m feeling.

From Harvard ethics professor Christopher Robichaud: "Everyone in the days and weeks ahead will use this loss as an opportunity to seek validation for their own hobby horse complaint. Harris lost because she campaigned with Liz Cheney. Harris lost because she didn’t embrace Gaza. Harris lost because she didn’t choose Shapiro. Harris lost because she wasn’t progressive enough.

Take a good hard look at the map, my friends. Trump has won the popular vote. Trump ran the table.

Explaining that with your hobby horse issue isn’t going to cut it, tempting and consoling as it may be.

The problem isn’t the electoral college. The problem isn’t that we didn’t have a full primary. The problem isn’t Harris. The problem isn’t that Dems didn’t have the right message. The problem isn’t even inflation or the border. The problem is so much worse than any of those things. Those are all technical problems, with straightforward expertise fixes. If only it were so!

No, our problem is not technical. It’s very much adaptive. A party that embraced the Big Lie, supported an insurrection, and has been selling conspiracy-addled madness for years was widely and enthusiastically embraced. Voter turnout was profound! People didn’t sit this out.

Simply put, the problem–as some of you have rightly posted–is cultural. America, culturally, has completely abandoned a politics of decency and respect and has embraced instead a politics of resentment, revenge, false nostalgia, and bullying.

And it you look at the demographics, you also won’t be able to comfort yourself that it’s just a white thing, or a working class thing, or an education thing. It’s multi-class, multi-gender, multi-educational and multi-racial. That’s what winning the popular vote means. That’s what running the table amounts to.

A culture that has descended to this level of debasement is not easily fixed. In fact it may not ever be fixed. The timeline for changing something like this is decades–at best–not two-to-four year election cycles. You can extend that in this case, because with the GOP likely controlling all branches of federal government and the courts, they will ensure that mechanisms are in place to keep them in power long after their popularity has waned. You can count on that.

The GOP evolved into a party of rage, lies, and revenge–and it correctly diagnosed that there was and is a large appetite for that. That’s what the country wants. At least, enough of the country wants it to ensure broad appeal and widespread electoral success. The old GOP will never return, and the Dems have nothing to say to American culture at the moment. Nothing. They’ve been speaking to a country that’s gone, like dust in the wind. And that’s my final thought, which my posts last night alluded to. The America I knew and loved is gone. This new America–nah, I won’t even bother. I will say that cultural change is less likely to occur in politics, or in the academy. You’re not going to get people to see how vulgar they’ve become through a clever argument or a nice campaign speech, that’s for sure.

This would be time for the arts, broadly understood, to step in. The arts can change hearts and minds.

Too bad the arts have been systematically dismantled in education in this country, and on the other end, the tech industry’s assault on the arts through Al is sure to hollow out any good-faith efforts that might emerge.

And for the rest of the world, America’s rightward lurch is, I’m afraid, bad news for you too. I know you know this. Because it’s not isolated, is it? It’s just at the moment the most prominent example of a burgeoning trend. And this will embolden others in other countries, to be sure. We need not speculate what happens when countries become mired in lies, embrace resentment, and savor bullying. We know exactly what happens. Bloody conflict and global destabilization.

The first quarter of the 21st century will therefore in hindsight be viewed as the seed-planting stage for the absolute shit show that’s about to unfold globally over the next two and a half decades. Count on it.

Adopt whatever coping and endurance strategies you have available. You’re going to need it. I think that’s all l’ve left to say."

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So what’s the plan for the immigrants here legally? Will ICE ask for papers and leave you alone if you here legally? Or are they just gonna round up brown people, detain them, and make them prove they belong?

I think if you have some legal status, but are not a citizen, you are probably at a fair amount more risk if you get caught up in the legal system in any way. If you have status and are working in a place where a lot of people don’t, like a farm or meat packing plant…you should probably keep proof on you at all times and hope you don’t get swept up anyway.

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Yes, a huge part of the problem is that democrats get lumped in with the social left wing weirdos even if they aren’t actually like that.

What is the solution?

oh god, this thread is hitting me right in the feels

https://x.com/estherzelda0514/status/1855011782957433288

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My friend is an instructor in a technical college where students are 100% Latino and said that the students are stoked about Trump winning.

The odd thing: the college is in MichoacĂĄn, Mexico.

I agree with this. But let’s be clear, he’s talking about the roughly 2% of the country that jumped ship from Biden to Kamala. 47% of the country was already fucked, and the other 47% never embraced this bullshit and never will.

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There’s no way this is real. No one even knows yet if the tariffs are going to happen or just Trump BS.

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Lol fuck you, loser

things that never happened

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THE ARTS. What is this person smoking.

Zero voters based a single vote on what they saw in “the arts”.

What the fuck people. 4 likes. This shit is hopeless.

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I mean, I would make a bad politician because I am allergic to doing anything to appease fucking morons who are on record that they were going to vote Trump over Biden. You are already gone, dems should focus on the potential constituents with brain cells remaining.

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I’m just relieved to have learned it was the voters’ faults all along. What a relief for the politician class! No need to do any introspection or learn any lessons.

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Just a little bit more THE ARTS and we got this shit!

Yah. Writing this was a total waste of time

There are way fewer billionaires, though. You say corporations and it reaches too far, I think. But I dunno anything so maybe that’s a good plan.