Joe Rogan literally endorsed Bernie 5 years ago and the dum dums in the EDem cult did their thing and here we are.
It really is that simple imo.
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Has to be one of the dumbest takes in the modern history of US politics.
âOn Saturday, the progressive group MoveOn called on Sanders âto apologize and stop elevating this endorsement.ââ
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"In a statement Friday afternoon, Sandersâ national press secretary Briahna Joy Gray distanced the campaign from Roganâs views, but argued that âsharing a big tentâ meant keeping it open to people with whom they disagreed.
âThe goal of our campaign is to build a multi-racial, multi-generational movement that is large enough to defeat Donald Trump and the powerful special interests whose greed and corruption is the root cause of the outrageous inequality in America,â Gray said, echoing the argument made by many Sanders supporters on social media. âSharing a big tent requires including those who do not share every one of our beliefs, while always making clear that we will never compromise our values. The truth is that by standing together in solidarity, we share the values of love and respect that will move us in the direction of a more humane, more equal world.â"
THE HORROR!!! GIVE ME JOE BIDENS CORPSE!!!
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They would have all loved a Rogan endorsement for HRC or Joe or Kamala. The party would rather lose to Trump than have won with Bernie anyway. And thatâs not really about policy, itâs because he wasnât a real party member.
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Which gets down to the nuts and bolts of what I was posting earlier. The Dem party isnât about progress in any meaningful way. Itâs about jerking each other off until you reach the top of some horrible power structure that inevitably is going to choose some of the worst humans to represent it in many cases.
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Yeah. Itâs partly the idiotic purity testing. Itâs partly looking down on them. Itâs partly writing them off as lost causes.
But Joe Rogan and his viewers are exactly the type of people that Democrats have to TRY to win over. Right now theyâre not even trying. And people can sense that.
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I believe they sincerely thought Bernie couldnât win and that they had a better chance with other options.
Rogan podcastbros are part of it, but thereâs also Gen-Z streamer guys, white women, Latinos across the board. I think appearing on Rogan is fine but weâre deluding ourselves about the magnitude of the problem if we think acing a Rogan interview would have given Kamala the win here. There just isnât going to be a One Cool Trick that unfucks the problem.
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I think a lot of voters felt that way (though some didnât), but the people inside? Not just the top people, but generally party organizers? Enough of them said âheâs not even a Democratâ to make it pretty clear.
Merely going on Joe Rogan wouldnât solve anything. Not doing so is symptomatic of a larger issue in that Democrats have been writing off portions of the population as unreachable, while Trump didnât, and his idea was better.
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Any choice excerpts from the 2+2 board. I opened one of the threads for a few mintues of scrolling and it was dogshit.
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Joe Rogan has been a partisan hack since forever now. Heâs one of the biggest antivax voices on the planet, doesnât shut up about trans people and wokism and believes and promotes every republican conspiracy there is. Watched some of his Trump interview and it was the most sycophantic thing Iâve watched. Meanwhile when his buddies are revealed to be paid millions from Russians for literal propaganda he completely ignores it. Iâm surprised people think he is or ever was a good faith actor.
If the left was strong enough to take over the Democratic Party, that wouldnât have mattered.
Also, I think weâre putting the cart before the horse here. Bernie was a cross-party phenomenon long before he ever got on the Rogan podcast. Itâs not at all clear that Rogan gave him a huge bump.
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True, true, takes some balls to even look black men and Latinos in the eye after some of the things Trump said about them but Trump donât give a f. Willing to ask for a vote from anyone, at anytime and at any place.
So go on and if Rogan starts getting hostile then you can respond by pulling moves out of your hostile interview bag.
Say what you want about mayor Pete, he would excel in that environment
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To give a less trollish answer, I donât think it would have mattered AT ALL if Kamala had gone on Rogan, it is way too late for that. My point is that I think now there is a bit of a dawning realization in Dem circles that perhaps their cultural hegemony is not as unassailable as they thought and it would have been better to engage with platforms like Rogan rather than yell at them and/or pretend they donât exist.
What Sanders did on Rogan was not âthe diet coke version of Trump and the alt-rightâ, Rogan let him talk about his ideas uninterrupted for like 3 hours. Would it have made any difference to anything if young Democrats had embraced the chance to talk to his audience and we had say Pete and one of the Squad go on there? I honestly have no idea. I can tell you that hostility doesnât seem to have worked out great though.
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