This is an interesting way to think about. I think there’s something to it. But people did arguably vote for harm mitigation with inflation and covid and the financial crisis.
Seems like it’s more “avoiding future harms” and the “lesser of two evils” concept that people struggle with. More reason for democrats to make sure they are offering something tangible.
big daddy going to turn the dial down on prices EXCEPT for the one thing that I personally happen to be selling, which is just a really weird coincidence
I mean, if you can get people to believe this, you can’t be beat, period, the end.
I agree 100%. Bernie was expected to lose but instead he almost took down Hillary despite being attacked by both sides because he was passionate and people knew that he meant what he said. That’s trust, and that garners respect. And that’s what people wanted - regardless of whether they agreed with his policies or not.
I never understood why some here vowed againts Kamala going on Rogan. Like I said on 22, nobody is interested in listening to a candidate speak regurgitated talking points in front of a bunch paid employees to whistle and clap at all the right times or talk on a scripted format on the View to a bunch on democratic shills. She had an opportunity to talk to about 50 million people off the cuff but decided against it because too many of them aren’t aligned with her? That’s literally how you get votes. Bernie did it and it was a huge boost to him.
Kamala not going on Rogan was a massive own goal especially when the entire right wing kamala narrative was that she couldn’t do unscripted and was a dum dum.
I guess, but that’s not really how people work. People assign their allegiance, and then back-calculate that their guy will give them all the contradictory things they want.
K ignoring Rogan is much more of a symptom than a cause. It wouldn’t have made a huge difference but regardless she wasn’t going on that podcast given all the previous decisions (who was advising her, running the campaign, etc). It’s like saying you don’t understand flat earthers - they didn’t become flat earthers in a vacuum, there are years upon years of events that lead up to that.
I think she should have gone on Rogan, but don’t think it really matters, there was always a very good chance she made one misstep in the interview that would be a sound bite for right wingers and that would be the only takeaway from the entire interview.
You don’t build coalitions by kicking LGBT people off the bus.
C’mon, they would be saying that (and it would stick) no matter how well the interview went.
Even if Harris goes on Rogan, Rogan still endorses Trump. Rogan’s toxic masculinity would not allow him to endorse a woman for president. Not with the audience he has. At best, he would have both sided it and said “I still have to go with Trump.”
Imagine being this ass deep into politics and just discovering this now.
After this election, I’m having doubts HRC wins in 2016 if not for Comey.
She would have likely made several missteps but who gives shit. Fox would have run their soundbites anyway, but she isn’t going to lose any votes form that crowd, and dems could run whatever sound bites they wanted.
We obviously don’t know how many votes she gets from going on there but it’s still another missed opportunity to some degree to tap into a group that big and try to change a few minds. Or you can just continue to solidify your base and bleed votes. That will do it.
The only lesson to learn here is to be nice to billionaires with unlimited access to people’s lives.
Important to remember in all of this is that the difference between a Trump “blowout” and a Harris “blowout” is 3 out of 100 voters.
Margins matter. Nothing is the sole difference in isolation but also everything that matters has an effect.
Dear Santa,
Oh how cute.
It also seems a little much to be concerned about potential missteps from Kamala or that Fox is going to run a mean soundbite over and over - especially when you’re behind. Just get in there and get dirty. It’s courageous, and it will change peoples perception of you.
The postmortems about the media environment are already getting it wrong. Sure, they’re right about how the right wing has taken over podcasts, youtube, the algorithms, etc…but not about how to break through.
First issue:
https://x.com/OrganizerMemes/status/1854255992277545408
second issue:
https://x.com/Bernstein/status/1854595099449344058
I see people out there talking about Air America and setting up left-wing political podcasts/streams etc. That will never work.
I need to see a million different channels on youtube or twitch with straight white guys talking about gaming or working out or fixing their cars (whatever) and just being organic examples of positive masculinity. Maybe start injecting deeper or more political discussions after they’ve built a following by manipulating the algorithms.
Also the tweeter is still calling capitalism the state of nature. Literally.
And does not even acknowledge the idea of giving voters a bit of the ole class warfare
