2024 Election POST MORTEM

Sounds like half of the people you follow on twitter are really dumb.

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Millenials >> GenZ > GenX > Boomers, or something like that.

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I think we need more bread, circuses, and gladiatorial combat.

https://x.com/Shauncore/status/1854571515867533563

You have to wonder how much of this is Russian bot farms hammering how horrible everything is in the West. Also Russia invading Ukraine and maybe influencing Iran to influence Hamas to do its thing.

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GenX had the highest Trump margin. Thanks for nothing Kurt Cobain.

Yeah, I’m inclined to see this as not US-specific. Trump being terrible kept the margin fairly close. Bot farms got nothing on Joe Rogan bros, which come in all shades.

Setting aside any analysis, I think it’s a matter of objective fact that the Dems ran a dead center campaign. I can’t even think of a single left wing policy proposal.

There was perhaps a belief that her identify alone gave her enough left wing bona fides that they could bank on the Biden coalition turning back out for her and focus solely on the center.

Remember Jimmy Carter won after Nixon crushed in 72. We ride on a whirlwind that often frustrates rational analysis.

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The one radical centrist I saw on Twitter said she definitely tried to reach out and they voted for her but the way she did so seemed clunky and contrived and they were pretty sure she was going to tact back left when governing because that is where her heart is as proven by her track record.

When people say it was too left they just mean they wanted it to be explicitly anti trans

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Whereas Trump is honest about not being moderate. The worst part of Cosby is the hypocrisy.

I think there is some truth to that. But I just wanted to point out that this election was unique in that it’s almost impossible for anyone in good faith to claim that the Dems ran a campaign that was “too far left”.

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Yeah I guess my twitter timeline wasn’t saying that as much, going back to look for examples. I misread one tweet complaining that Harris dropped the populist anti-big business rhetoric. On first read, I thought it was complaining that she did it.

The too far left stuff is mostly just people who were never going to vote for her anyway.

With Trump’s White House win and California’s assumed role in leading the renewed resistance movement, Newsom also is bound to be elevated onto the short list of any presidential consideration for 2028, Sonoma State University political science professor David McCuan said.

The governor, who won’t be eligible to run for governor again when his term ends in 2027, will have the next two years to prove himself as an effective GOP antidote while maintaining a working relationship with the president-elect.

I want to check out of politics, but I can’t help but wonder already who will take the stage in the next election.

I understand many people have air quotes chambered. Let them fly it’s fine.

“The center” is where I, personally, get a tax cut and I also some transfers from the Federal government.

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The post is not deleted and I wasn’t “blaming” the voters. Don’t put words in my mouth. I was describing reality. It’s the job of democrats to reach voters and try to help them as best as possible. But when voters have long lists of (often unrealistic) things they want, and every person has a different list, then it’s not going to be possible to make people happy and incumbents are going to have a bad time.

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https://x.com/ElieNYC/status/1854559898949861388

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Maybe it’s moving right, maybe its going left, or maybe just rearranging the importance of the issues a little.

The dem party has basically become the Unstuck where they have their nice little basket of conformity and alignment. That’s great. But when you either volunatrily lose, or kick out folks both on the left and the right for completely different reasons, you simply just won’t have the turnout to win against the gop.

The dems need to start building coalitions and making friends with people they don’t like if they want to win - even if its fake and lathered in bullshit.

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Newsom has been gearing up for this for 25 years. He will clearly run in 2028

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Broken record today but I don’t think it really matters that much for the Dems if they move left or right or stay the same(I think left is better but not convinced it matters). They just need to actually start meaning some of the things they say.

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