2023 LC Thread - It was predetermined that I would change the thread title (Part 1)

Malik’s book is full of delicious nuggets of the kind, and though his claims about the modern invention of race and racism aren’t news, he must be commended for the sheer accumulation of evidence in their favour. Through it all, he maintains a consistent and compelling argument: that race and racism served as alibis for class-based regimes of domination and exploitation that took hold — again, paradoxically — in the wake of the Enlightenment.

Slavery in the American South, for example, was racialised after the fact, as a way to break alliances between European indentured servants and African slaves, and to legitimate the greater use of slaves (whose bondage had no limits). In Europe, meanwhile, as capitalist development necessitated imperial expansion, good Enlightenment liberals increasingly adopted racialised claims about the need for the higher races to discipline the lower.

In the imperial cores, meanwhile, they came to treat their own outwardly “white” working classes as a different race . Indeed, race “scientists” ranked various European peoples according to the different quotients of Nordic, Alpine, and Mediterranean mojo that supposedly coursed in their veins; it just so happened that the Irish were found to have an outsize portion of Mediterranean “genes” — a fact that naturally explained their subjugation.

The problem was that the radical, anti-racist Enlightenment of, say, a Diderot was eclipsed by the more moderate posture of a Burke or an Adam Smith, which was prepared to accept domination in the name of pragmatism and even “progress”. And as the liberatory promises of the Enlightenment crashed on the rocky shores of capitalist political economy, with its need for colonial expansion, darker racial sentiments took hold, as did the impulse for national purification and separation.

It fell to others — to Europe’s victims — to bring Enlightenment ideas to their logical conclusion. The heroes of Malik’s book are the “black Jacobins” of the Haitian revolution as well as C.L.R. James, Frantz Fanon, and even Malcom X in his later years. These were figures who saw — or in time came to see — that class and economic exploitation form the more fundamental power relationship in modern society. Race, in many ways, works to legitimate class-based domination and, especially in the United States, to forestall the emergence of a cross-racial labour movement.

Progressive identity politics, he suggests, obsessed with “cultural appropriation” and language-policing, harkens back to old ideas of racial separateness. It, too, helps forestall class solidarity across skin colour. At one point, Malik notes archly that one of the earliest “Black Power” conferences, in the Nixon era, was sponsored by… makeup brand Clairol.

Malik’s class-based analysis is largely correct: once you notice how 21st-century identity politics helps uphold today’s neoliberal political economy — offering diversity in the boardroom, but not living wages, good health care, and safe retirement — you can also see how the 19th-century variety served to uphold that era’s class-based hierarchies.

In the face of this, what is desperately needed is a more robust universalism, capable of generating and sustaining solidarity across cultural divides. Malik puts his hope in the ideals of the radical Enlightenment

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Wait wait, you mean you CANT completely submerge an engine in water and expect it to work?

Since when?

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Since I submerged my mom’s corvette outside the Barnes and Noble in 1989.

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I thought everyone eats the tree

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That’s not weird at all. A Ford is often drivewble except during floods.

What’s weird is the arsehole videoing people driving into it for likes on social media when he knows they’ll get stuck, instead of helping them by warning them not to.

It would be weird in the US, but I guess not in the UK.

Fords are common in the United Kingdom, where many rivers and canals snake their way around the countryside. A ford is a cheaper way of creating a river crossing, and can carry far more weight more easily. They’re a useful solution for minor roads where it is convenient to be able to cross the river when water levels are low.

In the video Rugby posted there were sometimes crowds of people watching and some people were going though in jeeps and such (sometimes successfully).

From other videos. There are massive signs saying “this road is closed. The road is closed for a reason” I dont think video guy could do anything additional.

There are also depth markers.

People repeatedly crossing a ford that is known to fuck up cars. It’s some kind of weird behaviour for sure.

Interesting case. I hadn’t heard of this.

Articles like this infuriate me though. It’s a great example of trying to appear unbiased skewing super conservative.

  1. Uncritically quotes officials talking about how this harmed the US by

(Checks notes)

Stopping them from actively spying on Cuba

  1. Contras “allegedly committed warcrimes”.

A lot of them in the southwest US. At least there were a bunch in AZ when I lived there. People were getting stuck in them during floods semi-frequently and some had to be rescued.

eta: These were pretty much exclusively dry when not raining.

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It’s not weird. Self sabotage is the new norm and the spirit of Brexit.

In the US people would assume it’s safe unless there’s a physical barrier blocking their path.

Signs with no barrier usually just mean “it’s probably safe, but you can’t sue us if something bad happens”

https://twitter.com/mattseedorff/status/1611390162226876418?s=21

The reason the police is looking for him and he thought it wise to leave the scene is that he executed the robber.

https://twitter.com/nuancebro/status/1611808197316075521?s=21

Shot him 4 times in the back (self-defense), shot him 4 more times when he lay motionless on the ground (iffy but a good lawyer would maybe be able to successfully argue self defense), the shooter picks up the robber‘s gun and then fires one more time at close range.

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The good guy with a gun could have easily hit that person sitting in the far booth, also anyone showing up at the front door could have been hit.

Looks like the robber was just randomly grabbing whatever cash or cards people threw out, wasn’t even demanding their whole wallets. Totally not worth risking getting killed or killing a bystander over.

That explains this sign I saw in the Cotswalds (which is also really funny)

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That’s easy to say watching a video sitting behind your keyboard. I imagine it’s hard to do such a calculated risk/benefit analysis when someone is waving a fucking gun in your face.

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If he was justified to fire the first shot doesn’t really matter how many he fired. You are supposed to shoot to kill when you draw your weapon.

That the guy had his back to him is something, but people were still potentially in danger. It’s horribly unfortunate all around.

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This person painted their dog like pikachu and took them to an nba game.

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I’m just saying if it was me I’d be more worried he gets a shot off even after I shot him, or if I miss somehow. If it looked like he was on his way out the door I’d just let him go.

I’ve actually had a gun in my face when my friends and I were trying to break onto the property of an abandoned (we thought) burned-out house where high school kids would out.

The really stupid part is we had gotten a rifle to try to shoot out the lock on the gate, so we could drive up to the house instead of walking.

Thankfully my friend holding the rifle ditched it in the floorboards of my car when the nutjob came running out of the woods with his dog. Apparently the guy was some kind of survival nut living on the property and hoping to turn it into a paintball facility. The worst possible person to try to break into their property at night.

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He kept firing when the robber lay unarmed and motionless on the ground. How can that be justified?