2023 Israel Conflict - Ground Forces Enter Gaza

I think if you poled different age groups and changed the question between choosing hamas or israel with "did we land on the moon or are NFT’s a wonderful investment vehicle, you’d get very similar results.

suzzer99 · December 30, 2023, 5:15am

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1740641517847335009

I’m not saying I know whether anyone is telling the truth or lying. But this seems to at least make a reasonable case that the NYT could be doing it’s yellow cake uranium/Judith Miller useful idiot thing again.

Why does establishing the veracity of horrific rapes and graphic depictions of beheadings and dismemberment matter, when we already know Hamas committed countless unprovoked murders of civilians on Dec 7th? Because it’s providing emotional fuel to justify the ongoing killing and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, or at least get people to look the other way.

That said, this is still extremely horrific:

NoMatterWho · December 30, 2023, 5:33am

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1737593297940439445

Xiaolongbao · December 30, 2023, 7:20am

clovis8 · December 30, 2023, 12:38pm

He already explained that post.

skydiver8 · December 31, 2023, 1:56am

Believe all women…unless they’re Jews, amirite?

Also, I usually agree with bonomo, but “rape is ok because freedom” is a take I just cannot get behind.

Melkerson · December 31, 2023, 2:10am

I’m surprised when people decide to try that one.

Reminds me of Rabbi Eyal Karim who sure sounded cool with rape during war. I know he kind of walked it back and that his views aren’t representative of Jewish folks, but man this is a scorcher of a hot take:

Karim was embroiled in controversy in 2012 for his response to a question posed to him (Hebrew link) on the religious website Kipa, asking in the light of certain biblical passages if IDF soldiers, for example, were permitted to commit rape during wartime despite the general understanding that such an act is widely considered repugnant.

In his response, Karim implied that such practices, among several others that were normally prohibited — including the consumption of nonkosher food — were permitted during battle.

“Although intercourse with a female gentile is very grave, it was permitted during wartime (under the conditions it stipulated) out of consideration for the soldiers’ difficulties,” he wrote. “And since our concern is the success of the collective in the war, the Torah permitted [soldiers] to satisfy the evil urge under the conditions it stipulated for the sake of the collective’s success.”

skydiver8 · December 31, 2023, 2:13am

This guy is a better writer than me, and sums it up well, I think:

https://x.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1741109253916840071?s=20
https://x.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1741109965920833634?s=20
https://x.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1741110668059893929?s=20
https://x.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1741111275357397003?s=20
https://x.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1741111639469072403?s=20
https://x.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1741117011391135946?s=20
https://x.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1741117529622458563?s=20

geewhysee · December 31, 2023, 2:28am

Just a few bad apples.