2023 Israel Conflict - Ground Forces Enter Gaza

That’s the criticism I linked, but my criticism is that it’s simultaneously the most vanilla take imaginable and profoundly ignorant about anything except the most superficial details of the region, and my contention is that this is characteristic of Noah’s writing. He’s one of those guys where I can predict with 100% accuracy what his take will be on any given subject.

I had a look through his feed for more dumb stuff but his takes are generally just boring and contentless. I did bust out laughing at this, though, and it does demonstrate how he’s willing to comment on things where his knowledge is not even superficial:

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OK man, and then what happened? Answer below, spoilered in case people want to listen to the Revolutions season on this, which I recommend.

Louverture agreed to integrate his troops with the French army on their solemn promise that they would not reinstate slavery. They then betrayed him, sent him to France in chains, and tried to reimpose slavery. A second Black uprising put an end to this, and upon victory, General Dessalines slaughtered all the French people on the island, men, women and children. By the time you get to this point in the story in Revolutions you are like “kind of had it coming tbh”.

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I’m not being facetious here and am probably too ignorant to discuss geopolitics. But what’s the difference between what Russia is doing in Ukraine and what Israel has been doing all along? Isn’t Russia trying to take back land from the Ukranians? And hasn’t Israel been snatching land and establishing settlements to the point where Palestinians have been relegated to a small strip of land in Gaza where they are completely controlled and can’t get basic necessities like clean water, electricity, or medication? I’m never for the harming of innocent civilians, but I think I’d be more surprised if there weren’t terrorist attacks (what other means do they have?) under such conditions. It seems set up for conflict and no peace

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Fuck what a story. A family hears the terrorists entering their neighborhood. They get in a safe room and call the grandfather, a retired general over 60, who lives over a hundred miles away. The grandfather gets in the commuter car and drives towards the community. He gets into a gun battle, saves a couple of soldiers, saves a couple of music festival survivors, goes back and gets some weapons from the injured soldiers he saved, joins up with the special forces about to assault the community to save the hostages, and makes it to the family

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You’re right. You are too ignorant to discuss geopolitics.

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https://twitter.com/EdKrassen/status/1711345650690871424?t=i8xWp0G3baboMTlgduMqAA&s=19

I have zero trust in this Krassenstein guy.

Among other things, this operation was clearly planned via traditional, hand-to-hand messaging and secrecy. I doubt there’s any messages from Hamas to Russia saying, “heya, can you get us some them American weapons you took in Uklraine?” If they have American weapons, it’s probably from stealing them from Isreal.

Watched an hour-long round table sponsored by Foreign Policy. There was agreement that Iran generally supports and helps fund Hamas but skepticism that it was involved in planning in any substantive way.

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Lol this forum. Everyone who disagrees is a dunning-kruger teenager who reads reddit and doesn’t understand all the secret sources that the geopolitical experts here have studied saying genocide is a close call, actually. Just admit that no one here has a clue outside of CNN/lib twitter and your number one priority is keeping a group of internet friends together. That’s a much more efficient way of keeping the good vibes flowing.

I actually agree with some of your comments above, at least in part. But Middle East stuff is always a mess. I kinda agree with Clovis that it’s a problem from hell. I often disagree with Cactus, whether I mention it in a post or not, but I find an attempt to string together an analogy between Isreal and Russia/Ukraine absurd, such that I think it’s appropriate to call it out as such.

Probably just ‘call it out’ as that, I mean we are all just laypeople discussing geopolitics on a forum!

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We get it you are super duper pure. The purist of the pure. Pure as the driven show pure. You are the king of pure. Nobody will ever be as purely left as you.

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Reminds me of some of the redditors you’d see in the old Chapo subreddit. They spend all their time fighting each other to see who the leftmost person was by posting pro-communism memes and shit like that.

Right, it’s not at all possible to have disagreements amongst “the left”. There is only one true position, that of the centrist Twitter-posting shitlib, and anyone left of that must just be pretending.

No one could possibly, actually, seriously be pro-communist.

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meh. there is a place to spotlight the fake leftism that is those who support genocide and capitalist russia. it has nothing to do with communism. no communist in his right mind would support a theocratical dictatorship. I don’t expect everyone to get a PhD in poli science but enough of distorting meaningful definitions.

there are many thoughts among the left. there is not a single leftist who support genocide and massacares. those who do are not leftist and that should be screamed from the rooftop.

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Its the Final Solution.

And also stop with the strawman that being anti massacares means being “pro-israel” in any capacity.

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No, shithead, I just disagree with you.

Your entire argument and characterization of “the left” is a straw man. You literally just straw manned a leftist position that fading support for the US policy in Ukraine is pro-Russia. You straw manned every single thing I posted.

You don’t even have an opinion. You admitted that your entire education on the conflict comes from the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Can anyone imagine a “leftist” claiming that holocaut survivors were “illegal immigrants”? Can you really imagine uttering those words?

Goddamn ignorant fascists.

Another straw man! Lol

It’s not strawmanning you when you position is nothing more than straw. Israel bad. The end.