There’s very little water imported to California and what there is goes to the desert East of San Diego, not to the Central Valley. The Central Valley water (when it’s not from the aquifer) comes from the Sierras in California.
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Orange County in 1965
I lived across the street from a big cauliflower farm in the mid-70s in Huntington Beach.
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conversations about who knows more about ca water is why i moved out of ca. also every single thing was way too far away. compress it into delaware please, then i might reconsider
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It’s a big state, but I can still walk to the grocery store, the library and where my kids went to school back when they were kids. Also I can walk to the ocean.
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So you’re a billionaire!
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I was just in Palm Springs for a bit where does their water come from? Are they going to have water issues in the future?
When I was a child I lived in irvine and much of the city was orange groves still. I am not sure that you can still find orange groves in orange county.
I have spent much of my life down here, lots of my posts today are coming from an extreme frustration at the cost of living here and the total ineffectiveness of the CA govt at dealing with it, and then losing almost everyone I know to this exact thing, and no signs of it getting better. They want just wealthy people to live here, and the only “housing” and living cost problems they are worried about are how can they keep the perpetual hispanic and otherwise underclass not-angry enough to keep living and working here, but also do as little for them as possible. I love this state a lot and have explored much of it, whether it is backpacking in the sequoias, camping out in various places in the desert under the stars and irresponsibly blowing crap up, driving back and forth to the bay area to visit family (I have a fear of planes), national parks, mountains, snowboarding, you name it. except maybe that weird north of sacramento part of the state that is basically oregon.
Also, I found like a million articles of what I was referring to which I now remember the term is wage-rent gap. For millennials in pretty much every major city and county it’s between 40-60%. That’s fucking insane. I don’t know how many millennial HENRY’s you have met (High Earner Not Rich Yet) but this is gonna filter out basically everyone but them and they are the worst fucking people imaginable. I will eventually not live here and that makes me extremely angry because I love california.
It is paywalled but this is the article I was referring to that outlines how ineffective CA’s policies have been at dealing with this:
Highly recommend reading it. Tax and property law in CA is essentially guaranteed to fuck millennials and benefit boomers. Very progressive
I don’t really think there are policies that California could have which would make housing affordable in LA or the Bay Area. Prices may crash here pretty soon though.
Palm Springs is like the Northern-most bit that does get water from out of state–the Colorado. Not all their water, of course. PS is right next to some mountains and I’m sure they get some more locally.
but like, riverside isn’t even really nice. “LA” now basically is comprised of all of southern CA because so many people live and commute multiple hours because riverside/san bernadino/etc. counties are ever so slightly cheaper.
I agree with you, there is no policy, which is why I am a big fan of rent subsidization in this case, especially considering how big the surplus is. Lots of that is property tax, and they’ve been making money hand over fist off these housing prices. Put that back into the system.
Property tax should be the only tax. It would address the problems you are talking about and it’s also the most fair tax because almost all the value of land comes from the society and infrastructure surrounding it and what doesn’t come from that was provided by nature.
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There are parts of the country where water routinely falls out of the sky and is allowed to run across the ground until it finds an ocean.
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As a so cal guy I kinda think of Nor Cal like this, but there’s actually like 1/3 of the state north of Sac.
Sign my petition for “San Francisco is Actually Central California”.
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Ive always put the North/South split at around Hollister or Los Banos
Should have let COVID run wild and cleared out a lot of housing.
my grandma used to live in lincoln. it was a joke, I’ve been there, it just seems like a lot of forest and small cities up there
Yeah I can relate.
Yeah, I’ve driven to Canada twice from So Cal, and it’s just crazy how much of CA is left after you pass San Francisco. A lot of that area seems pretty decent to live. I could see moving up there under appropriate circumstances.
A lot of Confederate flags if you go too far north.