In a Trumpy district up is down.
Someone posted that photo earlier and I think a bunch of the M4A dems actually won in the more R leaning districts. Hopefully we can find it again.
Edit: Got it. So yeah seems like they massively outperformed the ones who didn’t support M4A.
Also as has been said its more than just M4A, it’s spending on digital and messaging correctly. These old fucks are terrible at it.
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My mother always used to tell me :“SHUT UP!”
well, like I said, better than Biden. Like ATC said, how they performed relative to Biden is a column I’d like to see.
We did, just not well.
Seems to be a threshold of about R+5. So basically, dems running in R+ >5 districts might not have a chance no matter what they say or do, which tracks with what we saw. BTW, M4A was a big loser in our district. It was one of the top things brought up, usually along with socialist/AOC/Bernie, Pelosi puppet, and terrorist (which was unique to us and hard to extrapolate).
When you say “these people aren’t persuadable” and to just forget them, know that you are just conceding defeat in a district like mine. Here are the current numbers:
A democrat cannot win here without “reaching across the aisle” or whatever it is that y’all seem to hate so much.
I’m not saying all is lost, I’m saying that not every district is the same. Also, I think we have a shot at flipping this in 6-8 years with the democrat that just won the county supervisor seat that covers half the (more populous side) of the district. If she does a good job, she might be able to do it.
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Where my narrator at
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I have some, but not a lot, of faith in Joe not getting Obama’ed here. If Mitch (narrator…) plays hardball on ridiculous things like cabinet confirmations I mean even the most both sidesy Dems have to throw their hands up right? right?
A democrat cannot win here without “reaching across the aisle” or whatever it is that y’all seem to hate so much.
Not to sound flippant, but is that a problem? The seat has been R since 2002 and you’re losing currently by 7.5 points, twice the 2018 margin in an election where the Dems unseated an incumbent President. I agree you shouldn’t campaign on M4A etc there, but it’s totally plausible that a good overall national strategy for the Dems involves you getting destroyed by 20 points in that district.
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I see what you’re saying. Also understand that this race (and this election) was unique, and it’s actually probably not a good idea to tie it to national trends, tbh.
AFAIK, we were the only non-incumbent dem candidate to be personally called out by Trump, by name, in more than just his stupid endorsement tweets.
this is what I mean:
https://twitter.com/ACampaNajjar/status/1325133380896219136?s=20
This article says it better than I can, and also mentions the supervisor race that might be able to flip us in the future.
btw, when that ad dropped, that’s when we lost. Every republican we talked to at events and on texts/phones all started repeating Trump’s exact language.
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Ds should try to win everywhere, feel free to try to “Susan Collins” your district all you want.
Just not a basis to complain about the D’s national agenda, much less that of activists outside the party, because it’s super tough to win in a R+10 district no matter what you do.
The activists got the cities hyped to vote while Biden shrunk the margins just enough outside the cities by being by being an unthreatening, relatable old white guy. As a whole, seems like a pretty optimal strategy to take down Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
Saw AOC on TV and she said the Biden campaign was great, zero complaints about them. So clearly not a matter of ideology for AOC.
Instead it’s what we all suspected to be true about Nancy Pelosi, she is power hungry, petty and takes progressive challenges to her ilk personal.
And is stuck in the mindset of raise a ton of money from corporate donors, don’t advocate for anything that would piss them off much, and use that money for TV ads and to control your caucus.
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Nah.
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we’re back to messaging now.
The trouble in places like mine with “M4A” is that people see that, think “Bernie Sanders/AOC” then they think “socialism!” and we’re lost. It doesn’t matter how stupid we think that is, it is what happens.
Isn’t she like the lock of all locks to run for Governor again in 2022? Oh, and guess what else will be up for election in 2022, yep, the Warnock/Loeffler seat.
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Our politicians speak constantly about reaching across the aisle to work with GOP politicians, who are almost to a person totally irredeemable, but are very unwilling to reach across the aisle to their voters. The GOP voters we should be trying to get are not the ones that benefit from GOP tax policy.
We talk endless shit about stupid right wing idiots, but that’s ableist, classist, and extremely negative for actually gaining the power we need to get anything done. Yes, I think not having critical thinking skills in 2020 is very nearly a disability. In 20 years how many jobs for people who can’t problem solve will be left? The problems are the part that the AI isn’t good at.
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She needs to chair the fucking DNC. For the love of god get us someone who can make shit like this happen. She’d be more effective in that roll than anything.
Though if she doesn’t want that, a senate seat would be great too.
I want her as governor of Georgia for life. If there are term limits her job is to get enough of a majority in the state legislature that she can get rid of those term limits. We need Georgia to be a blue state going forward or we are never ever going to get climate change dealt with.
Democrats need to start hiring people for the back of house who are real chefs, not people whose mommy and daddy give a lot of money to political campaigns.
Seriously, I will feel almost as bad at Nancy getting the speaker ship as I will when I knew Republicans likely kept the senate. All of our failures in congress flow from her. It’s not even an ideology thing, like I’m not tripping on M4A right now, I’d just love to get shit like voting rights act and stimulus passed and I don’t see that happening with a ghoul like Nancy running the show.
Do we even have any democrats in the house with some courage and political skills? Obviously the progressives know what it would take but they’d never be allowed to be speaker. Do we have any moderates who could do a good job?
It’s so sad how badly we get outplayed. Part of the reason people don’t vote for democrats is how weak they are.
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“Whatever happens, we’ve got to get up and go to work," she said. “We’re not going to be out in the streets protesting. That’s the whole part of it. We accept it. It’s what we do in America."
Almoney said he supported the president’s decision not to concede the race and to pursue legal challenges over states’ handling of the election. But he said he didn’t believe there was a role for Trump supporters going forward.
“I guess there’s not too much we can do,” he said.
Nonetheless, many Trump fans said they won’t give up on the movement he started.
“Donald Trump is the Republican Party," Villano said. "He has changed the Republican Party and he will remain leader of the Republican Party.”
Gotta think bigger imo. As chair of the DNC she could change the entire direction of the party and work on flipping other southern states with super high minority populations into purple states. If she can do it in GA, she can do it everywhere.
The party needs new leadership and a new direction so damn badly, and the entire future of the fucking planet depends on it.