Presidential Debate Thread: Take 2 (Tonight at 9 PM Eastern)

the optics of skipping over an african american female vice president to get to a bro-y white guy from the same deep blue state should basically make newsome impossible.

not even accounting for the fact that little don jr definitely has some access to dirt on newsome from guilfoyle.

The idea of accommodating AA females is self destructive. They are 6% of the population and if they dropped 20% (from 90% dem) it would be a 1 point drop for Dems, and they are concentrated in red states. They have no other realistic voting option than dems. If you need a coalition to win 51% you should spend approximately 0% of your resources on your most captured voters.

The median voter is an older white person with a H S education. It is insane to not strongly prioritize their votes in favor of AA women. Donna Brazil and her ilk have strategically placed Dems in a situation where they will more likely than not lose to the worst candidate in history. If they get mad about throwing Kamala under the bus then it would probably be to the Dems electoral benefit, the more public the better.

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Or find a black woman who Americans don’t hate.
https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1808221043409949128?t=i0G9OmYDeHjXB1PGX1ZKqQ&s=19

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He gave a speech the very next day where he talked louder and even shook his fist!

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Didn’t realize Dr Disrespect was running his PR

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https://x.com/jmart/status/1808215619382530525?t=Cqcn52NoHUcm9kY_PezzAQ&s=19

https://x.com/MSNBC/status/1808203197695041972?t=G7b_DL655XQlG-wyPMUjbA&s=19

This is fucking Trumpian shit.

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Michelle is the only person the Dems would even entertain nominating who would beat Trump. Maybe in a vacuum some of the others would, but Michelle is the only one with enough of a margin that she wouldn’t be sunk by the clusterfuck of replacing Biden.

Either they are all morons or Joe and Jill are just blind and everyone else is a yes-person. Hunter should be smart enough to say “no, dad, me being at the White House is a really bad idea”.

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I think this is understating it, they’re not just picking random people, being a delegate is a huge carrot and these are doled out as like a form of lite patronage

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Hunter is a longtime crackhead of 20 years who lives for the moment and destroys everyone around him with his degenerative lifestyle only intermittently interrupted by bouts of sobriety. Even on the occasions he appears to “have his life together,” he is sneaking to the bathroom during important business meetings to do drugs.

That is the story I heard directly from him on his 2021 book tour. I’ll never forget towards the end of his Marc Maron podcast; Marc said to Hunter something to the effect “I’m rooting for you but I’m also deeply worried for you. As a former addict myself, your love of crack really pops off the page. I’m worried it’s going to be a lifelong affair for you.”

Link in case someone is interested in finding the direct quote.

In all likelihood, Hunter is thinking of nothing more than how Biden resigning would affect the latest hustles he has going on.

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Not sure if serious or if you’ve caught the same brain worm Skalnsky caught. No, the Dems are not well-served by replacing Kamala with someone with zero experience and zero interest in the job.

The Michelle Obama speculation just sounds beyond delusional to me. Does anyone actually think that could or will happen?

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I am in favor of Kamala over Biden, but I am also in favor of throwing Kamala under the bus. If she cannot be thrown under the bus, then I’d want her to be the nominee so Dems can at least die with their boots on.

The best time to replace Kamala was before the election in 2020, but we’re living with the strategic genius of Biden and his team.

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No. And I think one reason she is so popular is that she has made clear that she has absolutely zero interest in the job and was ambivalent about even agreeing to be First Lady in the first place. She has negative interest in obtaining power. Obviously her running would negate that.

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Me: i want a younger candidate

DNC: we have a younger candidate at home

The younger candidate at home:

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I don’t think she wants it, but I definitely think she would win. I also think Taylor Swift would win.

I thought that too, but Skydiver seems more like a party person and not a Biden-stan.

https://x.com/mattyglesias/status/1808235536869384415?t=xoPs6HTrPBaZTkB-sZ17Ng&s=19

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TBF, a vote for Biden is effectively a vote for Kamala. Maybe Biden hanging on allows her to be a three-term president.

https://x.com/nytimes/status/1808237221515837591?t=nOx88q_UnAI9AFxdUV50fA&s=19