Working out / health and fitness

I did it once in about 20 years of deadlifting and barely managed to do the walk of shame out of the gym but it wasn’t ER bad. Glgl

Had a bit of a breakthrough the last few days.

I found out about tibial internal rotation…

Until this point, I had no idea your shin rotated. I thought it just hinged on the knee. Mind blown.

This definitely seems a partial cause of my recent problems squatting and deadlifting without knee pain.

I’ve been doing some mobilization and stretching, but big benefits by just being aware of it when setting up.

Working out lately seems to be a series of discoveries about how broken and dysfunctional parts of my body are…

That sucks, bro. I’ve had a couple of back scares, but never ER-level. GL. On the bright side everyone I know that has herniated a disk from lifting has more or less recovered to the point where they don’t notice it much. Small sample, tho.

I found this surprising. I’d have bet the farm that you have health insurance. Even if you have an HDHP, your loss is capped at (7k/yr, IIRC) And if it looks like it develops in to a chronic condition then you just switch out of an HDHP next year.

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Yea that was a bit of an exaggeration, it’s just the main thing I’m saving towards right now so every unplanned expense feels like it’s directly hitting that down payment (and yea I’m obv on a HD plan).

ER did X-rays and prescribed muscle relaxants and Tylenol. I had a follow-up with an ortho today and he confirmed no structural abnormalities / no herniated disc. He thinks it’s a torn muscle along my spine, which means all I can do is rest it (knowing it’ll probably tear again, and again, and again at some point in the future).

Somewhat frustrating but also a relief that it isn’t anything major.

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When I moved to my small town in Japan, the only nearby gym was the town-run facility that was absolute antiquated crap. So after decades of going to the gym, for the past seven years I’ve been mainly doing bodyweight workouts at home. I’m in decent shape, but I’ve lost a ton of muscle over the years.

Well the town finally did a full renovation of the facility, and it’s now stacked with modern equipment. And it’s like $200/year to join. No brainer. Yesterday I went and had my first actual weightlifting workout in 7 years.

Two thoughts:

  1. Man it’s glorious to lift real weights again.
  2. My body is sore as fu** right now.
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That’s amazing. I felt the same going back to a gym after working out at home with weights but no rack or bench.

Theres certainly downsides, but so many more options and flexibility.

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Oh man I hate but love that first hit of DOMS you get after you haven’t worked out in a while. It hurts so good.

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I wish I was wired that way. I just have the hate part.

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The older I get, the more delayed it is and the longer it takes to recover.

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I lift weights year round so I don’t tend to run into this problem. I will have weeks where I’m on vacation or totally swamped at work or something, and I will get some mild DOMS when I resume working out but it’s very temporary.

I get terrible DOMS in the spring when I start running again. I don’t like treadmill and where I live it’s not possible to run in the winter. When I get to go out again for some runs in April I get crazy bad DOMS in my legs, whatever muscles I use on long runs evidently do not get used at all doing squats, dead lifts, etc.

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I didn’t realize it had a name. But I’ve had DOMS and it sucks badly.

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I find Doms occurs more if you are under eating/undersleeping generally

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Hydration helps a ton to reduce symptoms as well. But secretly, I love the DOMS. I tell myself the pain is weakness leaving my body.

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I mean DOMS is quite bad, its basically your muscles not healing properly/quickly afaik and is in no way an indication of your workouts being good. Your workouts will subsequently suffer because you are effectively over training and not recovering properly.

DOMS also comes in degrees of severity. I think that if your DOMS goes away within 48 - 72 hours after your workout then you’re probably ok because you want to give your muscle groups some time to recover between workouts anyway.

There’s also the issue of persistence, usually if I get DOMS it’s because I’m “detrained” in a muscle group because of a vacation or something, so I will get DOMS the first time I go back to working out but then after that it is not reoccuring.

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To clarify, @mosdef stated my position more clearly. I know DOMS ain’t great and I usually get the DOMS when I’m detrained. Hydration still good though for keeping the muscles feeling supple and ready to fire.

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Right, similar here. If I take a month or two off squatting, my first squat session leaves me sore for several days, usually kicking in around 24 hours after the workout. That’s the DOMS I like, like a constant reminder that I made it back to the gym. I almost never get DOMS other than after that first workout after a long break.

Here’s my thinking on longer-term training.

I did a recovery week two weeks ago, which felt great. Last week I added a fifth day of running and upped the mileage to 33. My plan is to continue to base build to around 40 and get my long run to 13 or 14 miles. My kids have Spring Break on the week of April 10, so that’s a natural time for another recovery week. Then I have another week of base training before an 8-week 10k block, followed by a couple weeks of recovery and base training before starting an 18-week marathon plan.

I will try to do the 10-k block mainly in the 38-40 mpw range, and that should give me a good idea for how much mileage I will be able to handle for the marathon plan.

When you do a recovery week do you take a week off from running, or just scale back to “easy” runs?

I do all easy runs and decrease mileage by about 20%

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