It is. But it doesnt work for me
Ha. Yeah. The constipation is a real thing for me to.
I’ve been mainly trying to make sure I drink more water and eat fruits. Seems to be fine.
Honestly I agree. These things are fucking miraculous. The fact these drugs exist has probably added 10 years to my life expectancy
Are you doing monjaro or ozempic?
ETA: saw you’re on ozempic. I’ve read that monjaro has less side effects and it’s a bit better, but you can always switch later if I stops working for you.
ozempic discussion in the workout thread got me like 
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Any chance you guys are comfortable discussing the price piece?
I’m in Aus. I got it on prescription from my regular doctor.
I think it was about 250 Aussie dollars for a single pen. Which will last me 6 weeks on the ramp up dosage regime.
I’m not sure what the ongoing maintenance price will be.
Edit. I also think I’m saving that amount in reduced spend on food, in particular uber eats. Still using it, but ordering one dish for me an Mrs Rugby instead of 3 or 4.
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Sure. 50 mg of tirzepatide is about $700 from Valhalla. 150 mg is $500 from the least shady Chinese supplier.
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How long does that number of mg last?
The dosage is 2.5 mg for 4 weeks, then 5 mg afterward, going up 1 mg every 2 to 4 weeks based on results. So 50 mg should last a couple of months. For me, I started at 2.5 mg and stayed there for 4 weeks, then slowly went up to 5 mg over the next few weeks. I’m at 5 mg now.
If you use Valhalla, they ship it with the syringes and the alcohol wipes.
Did we all just gloss over the fact that Mrs Fatboy8 is sticking with the legit supply while he’s cooking up shady Chinese powder he buys in bulk off the internet?
It’s this weird thing about Asia. Certainly in Japan. The more athletic the person is, the more likely they are to be a smoker.
When I first lived here, I joined a gym and became friends with a bunch of my gym mates. They invited me to a year end party. I was flabbergasted when, at the party, every last one of them pulled out a pack of cigs and proceeded to smoke the night away.
She’ll be switching as soon as we run out of the good stuff.
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Can anyone recommend muscle-promoting supplements? My goal is to add muscle mass. Basically, I know nothing about supplements. The last time I paid any attention to them, I was taking shit like Ripped Fuel and Hydroxycut 20 years ago during college.
Couple details:
40 y/o, 6’1, 200lbs
Cardio 3-4x / week for the last 5 yrs
Walk dog 20 miles / week
Just started a HIIT class, which I’ll do 1-2x week - mostly upper body + cardio - I get a great lower body workout from cardio (spin)
May start adding core + pushups to regiment on non HIIT days (if my 40 y.o. body will allow this, still TBD)
Vegan-ish on weekdays, eat whatever I want on weekends
Drink on weekends, but not a drop in 2024 (thx Wichita for the motivation)
That’s the picture. Have lost 7lbs in 2024, entirely due to getting off the sauce. Now I’m looking at my physique and wanting to pack some muscle on. No longer interested in eating bowls of tuna or shredded chicken breast.
My understanding is that there are basically three effective supplements - protein, creatine, and steroids. For protein, just take cheap whey protein - all the additives usually do nothing other than add cost.
It can also help your workout to take some caffeine before - but in general most pre-workouts are useless unless your workouts are super intense. Additionally, if you’re working out for like 2+ hours, it can help to take supplements during the workout with carbs as well as protein for fuel.
I’ve found this guy to know his stuff pretty well:
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Hey.
If your goal is to add muscle mass, you need to look more at the exercise you do rather than supplements.
Your workout looks great for staying fit, fairly lean, and losing weight. It doesn’t look great for adding muscle.
To add muscle. You need to lift weights.
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JonnyA laid it out pretty well and like Rugby is saying, to gain muscle mass you’ll need to do strength training, otherwise your normal protein intake is fine.
This is what’s generally recommended for protein intake if you’re doing strength training
To increase muscle mass in combination with physical activity, it is recommended that a person that lifts weights regularly or is training for a running or cycling event eat a range of 1.2-1.7 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight per day , or 0.5 to 0.8 grams per pound of body weight.
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Best low calorie salad dressings?
Hunger
4 weeks in.
Down 12 pounds to 306. 3 pounds per week, still good, still on pace. Should see sub 300 by the end of February.
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Update 4 weeks in:
I’m tracking well against expected weight changes using calories in - calories out as expected (first law of thermodynamics remains undefeated, as it turns out).
Historically, I’ve found that exercise calories get consistently over-estimated. I think this is a combination of apps overestimating plus you offsetting a bit by moving less during the day if you’ve done a hard workout.
But sustained and regular cardio does burn calories. So I’m tracking expected weight change against actual in 3 scenarios. In each scenario I assume my BMR is 2500, then I add on the calories peloton gives me credit for, either multiplied by 0%, 50% or 100% - the 3 dotted lines in this graph.
My actual weight (5 day moving average) is tracking well to the direction and slope of the 3 lines, and is (surprisingly) closest to the 100% (full credit for peloton calories) scenario.
I’m still not sure the exact multiplier, but based on the first 4 weeks I estimate my daily calories out as 2440 + calories burned on the peloton (math below0.
So if the formula is
3500 * [(Calories In) - BMR - (Peloton Calories)] = Weight Change
I can fill in the Calories in term (1858 daily), the Peloton Calories term (533 daily), and the weight change term (8.9 pounds or 0.32 pounds / day. to get a Calories Out estimate of 2441 + whatever I burn on peloton for that day.
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