Working out / health and fitness

My perception of running must be way off, or I’m even slower than I thought I was

Can you try for a 6:10 mile run next time you’re in the gym Keed? I’d be curious to hear how it went.

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I’ll give it a go after work today

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No you’re good I think Keed is way overestimating people’s running ability. I do agree that the 6:10 mile is probably the easiest for your average guy with training though.

In terms of hardest to easiest i put it something like 4 sets of 10 pull-ups >>>>>>>> 225 bench >> 6:10 mile. Obvously training is required for all of these things, even a non fat random guy most likely isn’t hitting any of these right away without putting in work.

I’m way below 25 BMI and have no shot at hitting that mile time in my current state. Also can’t do any of the others but if we made a bet that I need to do one of them within 6 months or something I’m taking the running challenge every time.

A 6:10 mile would put you in the top 40% of male finishers at a large race open to all ages and abilities. Definitely not easy, but doable for most young males with training.

ETA: that is not my time, just a random 6:10 finisher

This is definitely true. I do 5ks with my daughter and although they are not competitive they should be a self selecting people in better shape than average. A 6:10 miler should be able to run a sub 21:00 minute 5k (based on checking a couple running calculators). The last 5k I did, of the 1463 people that ran, 43 were sub 21:00.

The average American is overweight and out-of-shape and a 6:10 mile is a pipe dream.

mile time far and away the easiest, 225 single rep bench probably second, followed by pull ups being far away the hardest.

Ty, sounds like I’m just off in my estimation of the difficulty of the running

There’s no way this is true, a 6:10 1600 m pace is a 20:19 5k. In high school my mile PR was 4:45 and my 5k PR was something like 17:40. My mile pace would have been like a 14:50 5k. So almost a three minute gap between my 5k and my mile. There were two top five in the state runners on my team, I think they were like 4:15 milers and 15:50 5k runners, so closer to a two minute gap between their mile pace and 5k time, but not too far off my gap.

edit, looked it up, both guys I’m thinking of ran 15:51 5k in the state finals. One wasn’t as good of a miler, I think he was only like 4:23 and didn’t compete in the state mile finals I don’t think. He focused on the two mile. Other guy was an excellent miler and ran a 4:16, lol, sick.

All right I’m going to go buy a wristwatch and hit the track, hopefully I don’t die

Here’s what I used - runworks.com. Also checked a few other calculators. It’s pretty accurate for me based on my most recent mile and 5k. Maybe it doesn’t work as well for fast milers.

Edit: just checked and it’s pretty accurate for Galen Rupp - 3:52 mile and 12:58 5k PRs (calculator estimates 13:21).

Jack Daniels’s VDOT table equates a 47 VDOT with the following times:

  • 6:10 mile
  • 13:10 2 mile
  • 21:02 5k
  • 43:36 10K
  • 1:36:38 half marathon
  • 3:21:00 marathon

That seems pretty consistent with what JonnyA said. (Which isn’t suprising; my guess is that many of the running calculators are based on some form of VDOT calculation.)

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Put in 4:16

14:43

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4:16 got you second place in the Ohio track championships back in 1995 and 15:51 got you runner up in the 5k cross country meet. Lost to the same guy in both events if I recall correctly. But cross country is slower than on a track so maybe it’s not so far off.

I actually did something like this almost 15 years ago, where I was with dinner with friends bullshitting about how athletic we were and how fast we could run a mile, and a friend and I agreed to meet the next morning at a track to settle a bet.

He had to run it in under 6:00, and I had to run in under 6:30. We both weren’t training for anything and were in normal shape for your average 25 year old.

We both ended up coming under our times, except I remember it took me a half hour to actually leave and drive home, because I was so exhausted I kept dry heaving like I had to throw up.

I’m just a normal dude who’s ran 2 marathons and done a half Ironman with almost no training, mostly just to be an asshole who chimes in with “what’s that traffic delays this weekend downtown for the rock and roll marathon? Oh yeah, I remember doing that TWICE” flexes biceps aggressively

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Lol not even close 7:26

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That’s not normal.

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I think being in shape to do all 3 would be tough a bit tough. If you bench a lot and gain weight, 225 is easy.

If you get real lean and train pullups and run, the other two aren’t that hard either.

10 years ago, I could definitely do
4 sets of 8
630 mile
Bench 200

The funny thing is that I used to think I was in terrible shape then. Now I’d love to be able to do all that.