Who will run in 2020?

Ish. My framework currently is that in a business where everyone expects high ethical standards (law, high finance, etc) the way to get rich is to be a total piece of shit. In industries where the standard is to be a total piece of shit (mine, car dealerships, retail, insurance sales, food) you can do really well by playing straight up and treating employees dramatically better than expected.

Basically being a contrarian is insanely strong if you can pull it off. Obviously this leads to every industry going through a cycle where its reputation fluctuates from really bad to really good and back again. I think finance is a really good example of an industry that used to have a really good reputation, but is rapidly descending into being seen as a bunch of thieves (where it isnā€™t already there, people in the know generally have a very low opinion of finance and the people in it). Itā€™s entirely possible that playing the game straight would be a way to crush finance now.

IIRC you work in commercial banking. You should know that that fact might be coloring your impressions of business in general. The only reason I can imagine how many pieces of shit you probably meet in commercial banking is that I work in transportationā€¦ where most of the people with large organizations are kind of monsters lol.

I think the wars over shelf space, advertising, and distribution around low grade dog food would be super fun. Itā€™s looking increasingly likely that the high grade dog food business has been a complete scam over the last 10-15 years (the grain free thing was actually awful for dogs) so youā€™re really just talking about selling food for pets.

Itā€™s a business IMO. Nothing particularly good/bad about it that Iā€™m aware of.

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Zero fulfillment.

But these are ā€˜the achievers,ā€™ as defined by Rush Limbaugh.

fiddle around and attract more eyeballs via shiny packaging. Some contribution to humanity.

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If I was in a boardroom setting, buttoned up in suit and tie like some semi-functional monkey, and listening to overpaid consultants impart their wisdom on product placement, Iā€™d jump out the window.

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I mean weā€™ve all played poker for money right? Are we really trying to examine every single thing we do to put money into our own pockets in the context of contribution to humanity?

At the same time point taken. Thereā€™s a reason why Iā€™m devoting some unstructured free time into understanding climate change. Itā€™s not because I want to be a good person thoughā€¦ itā€™s because I think thereā€™s going to be an ungodly amount of money in itā€¦ and not because of stuff like shiny packaging.

Shiny packaging is what happens when an industry is all the way mature. Iā€™ve already become moderately successful in one of those, but I want to do a big one from the ground up at least once before I die.

Iā€™d say 5% of poker players ever made money. It was a rarity to find a graph at sharkscope that wasnā€™t a mangled mess, reflective of undisciplined experimentation with a fashionable-for-a-time hobby

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Except the most successful insurance companies are run by total pieces of shit. I donā€™t know about the others, but Iā€™m assuming the awfulness of the person is directly correlated with their success. Same as it ever was.

Did we talk about how Pete is obsessed with editing his own Wiki? lmao

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That would be why the industry has a terrible reputation now yeah. Iā€™m talking about building a new firm in the space. Iā€™m in logistics and yeah same storyā€¦ at the same time if you want to grow an upstart one of the most effective way to recruit talent is to draw a large contrast between yourself and the existing players.

If the industry seems virtuous you can lure the sociopathic people by accommodating that where others wouldnā€™t tolerate itā€¦ if the people running your industry are those people you can pull in the mission driven people who are at least somewhat disgusted by the sociopathic people by being different.

The problem is that there are two types of super successful competitive peopleā€¦ the nicer ones (who tend to advance because of competence and the fact that everyone generally likes them) and the more bastard types who advance because they are competent and will do literally anything to get ahead. Generally the second group is larger but slightly less competent because it requires meaningfully less skill to pull off. Obviously the second group is also larger because the skill cutoff is lower.

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Nobody is shaming the billionaires. Weā€™re shaming Pete for courting them in wine caves. If these people want to donate 2800 bucks to Pete, on their own and without getting 50 of their friends to do the same as part of their bundle, nobody would care.

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You donā€™t get any credit for being a good guy when hosting a laughably opulent, tone deaf fundraiser for Pete ā€œI literally spout bullshit GOP talking points on the regā€ Buttigeg.

Democrats taking big money has had enormous, tragic effects. Bill Clinton was showered in Wall Street money and repealed Glass-Stegall, howā€™d that work out? We had the fucking votes for single payer and passed Mitt Romneyā€™s health plan.

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For someone as polished as Pete purports to be, what a dumbass he is wrt optics.

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Defeating Trump isnā€™t a worthwhile strategic goal. Amelioration the effects of the last 40 years of public policy is.
Putting another big money backed neolib like Pete in is worse than losing to Trump. As toxic as he is, at least heā€™s incompetent - - Stupid Hitler, if you will. 8 more years of Democrat neoliberalism will only cause more suffering and potentially set us up for another anti establishment wave carrying a Hitler Hitler into power.

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I think he makes a good point.

Happiness is a bit mysterious.

Accordingly, I think Iā€™ll go clean my van instead of philosophizing and watching the Buccaneers.

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And if we do, so what? What are they gonna do, take their money and go home? Good. Candidates for good or ill are beholden to their donors. Iā€™d rather it be a million donors at $20 than like 10 bundlers.

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Oh totally agreed. Being economically insecure is terrible for your mental health. Those happy people in places with less material wealth usually have more than enough money to cover their expenses. The worry about not being able to make ends meet is where the unhappiness comes from.

In the us most studies seem to show that you hit diminishing returns on happiness from income at 75k. Your own personal number is going to be based on the lifestyle youā€™re comfortable with.

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Totally agreed here. These people arenā€™t giving money to support the Democratsā€¦ they are giving money to subvert them, and when the Democrats get power it really shows.

Did I read boredsocial seriously believes that harden/lebron/etc are just better at getting ref calls versus the obviousness of they just let them get it more often because they are the stars of the league.