Who will run in 2020?

Smacc_25 · October 4, 2019, 8:44pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/1179529174060584961

Crunchyblack · October 4, 2019, 9:11pm

Click on Bernie video, get Mayor Pete ad

nunnehi · October 4, 2019, 10:03pm

Anyone find it odd that there have been so few polls since the Ukraine scandal broke?

skydiver8 · October 4, 2019, 11:02pm

How do you count emails in that figure, since so many of them send a metric fuckton of emails. I’m sure that adds a decent portion of donations, as well. Some of them send significantly more than others

grue · October 4, 2019, 11:12pm

Surprised to not see talk about it coming out that Bernie, you know, had a heart attack. Yikes.

Will · October 4, 2019, 11:17pm

I just assumed it was a heart attack. Not many other reasons someone gets emergency coronary artery stents put in.

grue · October 4, 2019, 11:22pm

Yeah but this is big optics problem. Massive negative if he winds up the nominee.

cassette · October 4, 2019, 11:24pm

Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts fired her national organizing director after “multiple complaints regarding inappropriate behavior,” according to a statement released Friday by her communications director.

Not much elaboration in the article.

RiskyFlush · October 4, 2019, 11:25pm

skydiver8 · October 5, 2019, 1:14am

uh oh mike pence…

Trolly · October 5, 2019, 1:16am

Running Dems vs. Pence polls is a solid troll, more pollsters should do that.

eyebooger · October 5, 2019, 1:17am

I’d really like to see the Democrats all but ignore Ohio.

I see no path where the Democrats win Ohio, but lose any of PA/MI/WI. And there’s no downballot senate race.

microbet · October 5, 2019, 1:18am

Hobbes should comment here, but stents or valve repair or something is just super common for 70 year olds Plus. I think we could very well not know if Trump or Warren has had some kind of heart repair. And I’m pretty sure it is actually a good thing. That his life expectancy is now greater than if all we knew is that he had had no heart work done.

Trolly · October 5, 2019, 1:20am

They can win if they actually campaign on working-class, dinner-table issues.

So they’ve got no chance.

Will · October 5, 2019, 1:22am

I’m pretty sure this isn’t correct. Random 78 yo with unknown medical history should have a greater life expectancy than a 78 yo with previous MI and stents. Not that the difference is huge once you get to that age.

This is older, but it shows high mortality post MI in elderly patients. https://ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/JAHA.117.007230

microbet · October 5, 2019, 1:39am

Do we know he had a heart attack? Anyway, looking at that study, it seems like if his MI was NSTEMI there’s not much impact on life expectancy, but a fairly significant impact if it was STEMI.

Will · October 5, 2019, 1:42am

Yes we know he had a heart attack. No info on severity.

microbet · October 5, 2019, 1:52am

Well, he’s my favorite but not by so much that it matters. If this stent ends up solidifying things around Liz and prevents Biden from winning it will save many more lives than just Bernie’s.

LikeClockwork · October 5, 2019, 2:23am

Medical layman here. When I heard he had a blocked artery and a stent put in I just assumed it was a heart attack, because isn’t that a blocked artery?

Then the news came out today and my wife rushed to tell me it was a heart attack. I was like, yeah I already read he had a blocked artery, isn’t that the same thing?

My point is, I don’t know that the phrase “heart attack” will matter anymore to voters than the knowledge that he had a stent put in due to a blockage.

MichaelDavis · October 5, 2019, 2:24am

Nah, the valence of “heart attack” is much more negative.