I initially read obscure as obscene
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Yes. Seems like way more is known about pool though. That CSU physics professor has tons of great content explaining what actually happens:
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Isn’t supinated palm facing up?
Marty you have just opened Pandora’s box. This is a great idea.
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Fantastic. Thanks for linking. I love breaking stuff down into all of the little parts you could easily ignore but are fun just to know for their own sake. And sometimes the epiphanies start rolling in.
My basic approach at each new table because I played in a lot of bars was to empty the table and set up at start with the cue ball. Knock it straight to the other end and pull it back to me in one stroke. Then I’d angle from start and stroke a few Englished balls into banked pockets. Gives an immediate feel for the quality of the table, any cloth inconsistencies, tiny imperfections in the cloth or table underneath the cloth that will affect the shot.
I miss it. I figure I would like a pool table of my own if I ever live in one place long enough to not feel like I’m burning money for six months of leisure.
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Understanding the types of throw made me realize why I was missing (aside from simply being bad).
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Hahaha I think he hits the side pocket too at 1:40.
A good rule of thumb for every maximum cut-induced throw is: You get about 1 inch of throw for every 1 foot of travel, which is about 5 degrees.
So again, maximum spin-induced throw occurs at about 50% English and slow speed.
Nice. Nice nice nice.
Are there really people arguing against the effects of throw? I have never used that terminology but would never have dreamed of denying the effect. I mean as far back as I can remember, I have been mentally gauging the degree of throw likely to emerge from a shot and whether to emphasize or diminish the effect through cut vs spin for a more precise shot.
That is really cool for him to so clearly explain the terms and concepts. I hope I see an improvement in my shots too from now being able to articulate the strategy, though there’s no accounting for the other thing we share:
I have a feeling my obscure thing I do regularly is about to be watching whatever YouTube pool rabbit hole you just sent me down.
Lol yes. You should hear some of the explanations people have for their aiming. Like they explain it, and it makes sense to them, and yet has nothing to do with the actual reality of the ball physics. What’s usually happening is a bunch of forces are canceling out and giving them confirmation bias. Then when there’s a shot where their flawed system doesn’t work, they act dumbfounded when they miss (repeatedly). Also, a lot of people subconsciously make small adjustments to compensate for these forces just from experience and have no idea they’re actually doing it. My dad is one of them.
Oh man just wait until you get to low deflection shafts.
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Yeah but when we’re talking about the palm being perpendicular to the ground it seems that supinate means facing towards body and pronate away from body, i don’t know how it came to be but the baseball biomechanics guys always say pronate when they’re talking about this action
Definitely give it a shot! Once you get over the initial urge to serve and volley, you’ll start to really enjoy the game. And to be clear, there’s lots of fast paced volleying after the serve and return.
And while doubles is way more popular, singles is a lot of fun and a hell of a workout. Most of the tennis players I know say pickleball singles is tougher than tennis singles because it’s way more quick bursts with less time to react.
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or want to find a group to play with near you.
Same thing for tennis serving but I’d say in baseball and tennis you are fully pronated while in darts perhaps just partially so. I think it would be impossible to throw anything while supinating but pronating even slightly is a natural end to a throwing mechanic.
I often spend several hours per week lurking in a forum in which people discuss the politics of a country on a different continent. Greetings from Switzerland!
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Hey! I discuss politics in Europe 
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I watch random sports highlights and cry. Not even just the teams I root for either.
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I love darts. One time I won a darts tournament on a cruise ship and they gave me a gold medal and I wore that thing everywhere (I think it was my brother, myself, and a third person who entered. Doesn’t matter, pennants fly forever). I want to hang my dartboard outside but am worried about drilling into the stucco. Also now have a toddler so probably can’t be flinging sharp objects about.
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A friend of mine won a really nice stand-up electronic board ages ago and I stepped up to the line for my first try at soft tip darts and nailed 11 bulls in a row. They put me on a team ASAP and taught me how to sandbag. Sometimes I’d go up and finish off with an accidental bullseye and be all pissed off about it. My buddy would remind me to fake happiness. It was fun and we qualified for the state tourney and finished 9th. We had a super ironic team name and the announcer was having a blast announcing our advancement to the next round. He was totally bummed when we got knocked out.
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So your obscure thing is hinting at clever team names but never revealing them?
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I’ve watched all of Archer an ungodly amount of times.
I also have a tendency to make a lot of Simpsons references in everyday life.
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Anderson Cooper 180?