Definitely not a typo
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~0% chance thatās a typo.
That is an A+ phrase.
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https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1643819684943347715?t=zNtKsxJdsyHaaQsAgKSe8g&s=19
It feels like trumplandia is an island with quickly eroding shores. It isnāt getting any easier to be a Trump supporter. 2023 shaping up to be pretty rough.
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Wow I completely forgot this one is coming right up
The civil case brought by writer E. Jean CarĀroll claiming that Trump raped and subĀseĀquentĀly deĀfamed her is scheduled for a jury triĀal on April 25. UnĀlike the inĀdictĀment that could take a long time to reach a jury, this triĀal could reĀsult in a blockĀbuster jury verĀdict as earĀly as May findĀing that Trump is guilty of rape.
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I hate to be that guy, but I donāt think a civil trial verdict = guilty of rape.
Yeah that is an opinion article in the NY Daily News
I mean, itās not a distinction one wants to have to explain. If a company is found guilty of fraud in a civil case repeating ābut not criminal fraudā is not a great look.
The judge in the Carroll case has ruled the accuser can have two other woman who allege Trump raped them testify as evidence of a pattern or practice of rape. The Access Hollywood tape is also being allowed as evidence. As a lawyer my reaction is, āholy shit that sounds like a tough situation.ā
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https://twitter.com/TheSnarkTank99/status/1643816666411814912
Blurry Kari Lake is a nice touchā¦
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Well youāre the lawbro, so you can tell me, but a company doesnāt really get found āguilty of fraudā in a civil case, right? So itās itās more a liable for fraud than a guilty of fraud situation. At least I think so.
I agree that itās a bad look. No argument there. Iām just engaging in my standard nittery.
It would be liable for fraud and the standard is lower (preponderance of the evidence vs beyond a reasonable doubt), but itās still bad. In this case, itās actually about defamation because he called her a liar for saying he raped her, so ārapeā is only in issue with regard to the statement. Sure, itās worse if he on criminal trial for rape, but it makes it into an early paragraph of his obituary either way.
Remind me did he have to submit a DNA sample? I thought that was being litigated here.
A civil rape trial isnāt going to slow down Trump or bother the Trumpistas in the slightest.
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Exactly. A huge swath of his base donāt really believe rape accusations ever.
If they care about it at all it will be about the winning and losing. They delight in Trump getting away with stiff and seeing the normies get frustrated that we canāt punish him. Its a vicarious bullying experience for them.
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Neither would a criminal rape trial. Or video proof of Trump raping people.
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I donāt think itās too much of a SSC thing to talk about the possibility of this being the death of a thousand cuts for him though. Like sure the vast majority of the MAGA crowd isnāt fazed by any of this, but if each new court case or scandal makes another .1% of his base start feeling disgusted and decide to stay home on election day (no chance any of them are switching their vote IMO) that could be more than enough to flip a couple of states with razor-thin margins and sink him in 2024 if itās close.
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Except we have his actual presidency to show that this isnāt happening. He is gaining in the polls right now.
The problem with this hypothesis is it forgets their entire worldview assumes the system will falsely come for trump. These court cases donāt hurt him they simply confirm their existing worldview.
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They believe the accusations, they just donāt care.
This assumes the rest of their base was already maxed out on their likelihood of voting before the indictment
They were not. Much more than 0.1% were tired of playing with the old toy, and may well have missed election day. Now theyād leave their dying kid to go vote
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