VEGAS BABY

This is one possible 50% range. What hands are you folding rather than opening on the button? I could see raising any king, queen, and maybe jack, which would lead to raising more than 50%.

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I’d take about 15-20 hands off of that, so I’d be a bit under 50%.

My dream machine folds K7o, Q8o, J8o, Q3s, J4s, 95s, 85s, 22. 98o and J5s are mixed.

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As a longtime (ago) lhe mid/hi player, if those guys are not used to 3/4 player play, blind raising the button is easily good strategy imo. I always liked that 80/160 bellagio game. Not so much the 40/80. But this was long, long ago. Kinda surprised it still exists.

My real question is what hands you should 3 bet after 1/2 callers or a 4 bet

So important note here - this was a 20 game with players simply not equipped for shorthanded play. Given that game state

I’m raising all these and a bunch more - suited jacks, Qx, Jx, T& T6 97 96 87 86 85 76 75 65 54 - I mean if I have to look down at my cards and then decide i’m going to be less consistent and probably not always find a raise with e.g. J4o but I think against bad short-handed players having aggression is just so important since it’s hard for them to find it when they miss.

I don’t think straddle is correct 4 handed since obviously you need a little tighter range + you’ll quite often face button 3 bets.

Against tougher short-handed players not only would I not straddle I’d probably just sit out and find a better spot.

Yeah I think this is interesting since you have position and a ton of flexibility on the flop as well. It’s probably right to 3bets 20-30% or something but be a littler trickier in general

This is a really important point. A lot of stuff just becomes bulldozer strategy when you’re playing a short table of fish who burn money under your aggression. You’d have to face an enormous bad beat to not suck them dry.

Assuming you’re bankroll is sufficient, I’d not even be mad if I got a bad busto beat. I mean maybe in the moment, but playing that kind of table is a pleasure almost worth more than money.

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There are different types of bad. The exploits are different against someone who is bad because they are too tight and passive vs someone too loose and aggressive. It sometimes takes me a while to find the right balance when playing short-handed against one of each.

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Very true. I was playing 3-4 handed in the same room on Sunday. One was a completely passive fish. The other two were hyperLAG, but just way too loose. So they were bad, but not exactly the kind of bad goofball was facing.

I disagree with this. The swongs can be huge as the variance is massive and you could easily lose for a few hours before they table fills up or they leave.

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Clearly you weren’t as drunk as advertised.

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Fair enough. Looking forward to finding out which type of swongs happen if we ever manage to put together an Unstuck home game :grin:

Re different types of bad sure but it’s just so hard to be too aggressive. Sure, someone who bets and raises 100% of the time indiscriminately is pretty beatable but that STILL requires you get far outside what you’re used to, in terms of what you bet, raise, and call with.

Even if they smartly dial that back to 80% they’re going to be MUCH harder to deal with than someone who plays passively at a full game and doesn’t adjust short-handed.

lollll

I mean I played for a living for 6 years, it’s just hard/impossible for me to turn off pro-mode no matter how much i’ve been drinking