Right, and after what taxes? Fed and state only? Sales? Excise?
Well this says the US-census uses pre-tax data, so I was wrong about the âalwaysâ
Otoh it also says that the median household income is 65k and in the graph that allinflynn posted itâs closer to somewhere in the high 40s. The graph is based on fourteen year old data, but I am not sure there has been that much of an increase in that time.
So all I was trying to say is that it is difficult to analyze income distribution without taking into account what data you are actually using.
How old are you? You must not remember how dumb even smart 17 year olds are. Especially with our massive fail of an education system. I didnât even begin to have the smallest grasp on how shit works until I was like 26 and Iâm still barely getting there at 31 lol. Immediately assuming a 17 year old wants to murder browns because they joined the Military is pretty weak and I think means you really need to reevaluate your compassion for people.
There is a massive propaganda structure in place to get kids to join the military as well as generational pressure from parents. Falling pray to that at 17 doesnât automatically make you racist scum who wants to bath in minority blood.
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Probably this was a lot more obvious in Belfast Ireland than it is in Belfast Maine. Just sayingâŚ
Even though we have been at war forever most military members in the US donât go to war. So it is more a gambling thing. Most wont ever be in a position to kill brown people, so it feels like a pretty weak attributed motive.
Well from my experience at least most kids arenât sitting around watching the news and learning how the world works. Most are hanging out with friends and trying or succeeding on getting laid. And all theyâve learned so far is America is the greatest most moral country in the world and their brave soldiers are just protecting freedom and civilians and stopping big bad terrorists. They donât really learn about our war crimes and how fucked war really is.
I remember I had a friend who joined up because he thought the military was honorable and good and he was protecting America. After a year in he fucking hated it and couldnât wait to get out. He, like many of them, were simply ignorant of what the military actually is.
Hopefully thats changing with social media though.
Or just use what you deposit in the bank each month, that would put 65k household around 90k salary in Colorado or 100k in Portland.
ZOMG I had no idea that line was derivative.
I do that too⌠itâs not fun.
Me too lol⌠I nearly joined the RAF as a 17 year old kid and thought it was a way outâŚ
I can still remember walking upto the office and saying No after having all the tests and tbh I had a pretty decent start g job as an air traffic controller.
Iâm glad to this day I stayed a civilian as I would have been in Iraq no doubtâŚ
My mate went awol for around a year and ended up in Army jail in Colchester when all the dying there was happening by apparent suicide.
Really? I thought the original was pretty well known. I was tempted to use the reference from UHF instead, though.
$65,000 a year isnât as bad as some are making it out to be.
Youâd clear at least $50,000, round it down to $48,000 so that gives you $4,000 per month. For a single parent with one child, 1500 to rent, 800 food/groceries, 400 heat/electric/gas/etc/cable/internet, 600 car/gas/car ins, 100 for a cell phone, 400 to health ins premiums. Seems like most of those are high estimates too.
Even in a big city with a relatively high cost of living and one child, you can get by on that, slowly build up an emergency fund, and contribute to a retirement account. You could obviously tighten the purse strings on that budget and save up more quickly. I also probably overestimated taxes, plus I rounded down.
Itâs not like youâre rich or living the good life, but if youâre smart about it itâs plenty of money if youâre single and you can stretch it if youâre a single parent with one child. You start talking family of four on that amount and now youâre scraping by.
If youâre single you could easily live on $3,200 per mo, so youâd have a three month emergency fund after a year, then have over 10 thousand a year to save/invest.
Obviously that doesnât leave a budget for fun, drinking, trips, lots of fancy dinners out, etc, but letâs not act like 65 thousand = destitute.
(Unless youâre specifically trying to live in a nice neighborhood in Manhattan, San Francisco, or some other elitist expensive city.)
âelitistâ
kelhus, right?
And what is your username supposed to be?
Jesus, just post who you are jackass.
Those are elite cities. They are expensive to live in or visit. They are full of high paying jobs and top talent in a whole bunch of industries. That part was really neither here or there compared to the point of the post.
Iâm Thomas. Who are you? I donât think you need my last name on a web forum.
I guess if you have a young child and need daycare youâre going to be in trouble for a few years until theyâre older. Could reduce a lot of the other costs to try to make it work, or pick up a part-time job. Rent and food could definitely go lower. So could transportation.
And of course the discussion was about joining the military at 17 or whatever, and how many people would do it cause theyâre poor and only coming from $65,000 a year. So I could say that it applies much more to the single person not the single parent.
Probably a mistake, but Iâm doubting myself a tiny bit. Maybe youâre not kelhus or itshotinlasvegas or the flat earth guy trolling us, but you probably are.
I doubt Thomas is his name
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