Ukraine, Russia, and the West

Maybe something like demand the Russians turn Putin over for war crimes and pull out of Ukraine or Moscow gets nuked in 10 minutes.

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Moscow gets nuked == end of humanity on planet earth?

Yeah, basically. Once that happens, they’re firing all the nukes at us.

Well hopefully the Russians would rather turn Putin over than see that happen.

Why would they have let him fire the first nuke then?

Just modern society. Billions will survive but life won’t resemble what we have known.

Putin presumably has enough juice to hold on for 10 minutes.

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This stuff was always going to be on the table if you have a madman threatening to launch offensive nukes.

How many nukes can go off before it’s nuclear winter and only the mine shaft dwellers survive?

Maybe all of NATO attacks conventionally and makes it clear if Putin launches one more nuke they wipe Russia off the map. Give the generals time and pressure to depose him.

Hell I don’t know. A game of chicken for the future of humanity.

He doesn’t need nukes to level Kiyiv. This war is over pretty quickly if Putin orders the airforce and artillery to attack indiscriminately without caring about civilians at all. That is what I am afraid will happen.

I think the mineshaft dwellers need their own air supply and 5 years years of food or something.

NATO might get involved if that happens. It’s hard to imagine the world watching while Putin kills 100k people.

There would never be any reason to nuke Kyiv, a fraction of conventional bombs can turn any city into rubble. Putin has strategic nukes, the end of days nukes that be launched into Europe and conus, and he has a variety of tactical nukes; tac nukes you’d use against concentrations of peer forces when you’re losing, as a last resort.

10 women for every man. Animals can be breed and slaughtered.

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UA is definitely winning the social media war. way more stuff from their point of view, which is a consistent daily cycle, seek cover from rockets, seek out columns, ambush, destroy. russian disinfo is very sporadic and inconsistent, vehicles/tanks rolls through a city, then nothing. sometimes ua shows the same column destroyed.

this one made the room dusty. ukrainian player in lisbon.

I looked it up. The air might be ok to breathe after five years.

Which seems crazy because in On The Beach the Australians all just accept their fate rather than digging bunkers stocked with food. Maybe there’s no way to get clean air for that long.

interesting semiconfirmed rumor. Medvechuk, who was supposed to be the puppet replacement for Ze, has escaped from house arrest.

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