Ukraine, Russia, and the West

The US/EU will allow Russia to blast Kyiv into rubble, but the first part is right.

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https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/

i think opening this page spams the sites with requests making it a crowd ddos

I really haven’t been following this whole Ukraine business closely until the last week.

Does anyone have a good link I can use to read about the events leading up to this. I still don’t have a great handle on how we got here.

Putin lost his damn mind is how we got here

@NotBruceZ asked where the nuclear line should be a couple of days ago. I still don’t have a good answer and now I’m not sure it even matters that much bc once shit starts to happen, I think you find yourself at the brink, wherever you set it, an awful lot of the time.

What might be more important, if you want to avoid ww3, is that everyone understands where the line is. Unfortunately, there are probably situations where one side thinks it’s to their advantage to leave the line murky. Like maybe so they can back down while saving face.

I’m not that concerned atm but scenarios where the risk gets uncomfortably real are starting to appear.

It seems pretty clear that the US and EU actually can allow Kyiv to be blasted into rubble. It’s weird that everyone understood a week ago that Ukraine is cool and all but not a NATO ally, but now that the war is actually here, everyone seems to be losing their head and acting pretty wildly. Western policy is basically a clown show that’s only looking decent because Ukraine is kicking ass. But it’s absurd that we’re only agreeing to SWIFT/central bank sanctions after the alea has been jacta’ed. Its outrageous that we let Putin invade Ukraine without understanding that it would result in Russia being cut off from international finance and x86 processors. It’s outrageous that we’re delivering weapons to Ukraine now, when it’s a belligerent act, rather than having supplied them for the whole war last week.

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I’m pretty fucking concerned already, to be honest.

I’m older than you are.

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It’s dawn and Kyiv still seems quiet. Anyone know if the Russians capture Kharkiv?

What are you trying to say? Sounds gibberish

USA has been supplying them for months… Years even.

Obviously it’s never enough for a Russian invasion.

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Everyone is adjusting to the situation. It looks like their actions are barely adequate and potentially too late but not sure how you look ahead and avoid this kind of thing because if you’re too aggressive maybe things get out of hand before you can throttle back. It’s a tricky balance.

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https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1497778191167107075

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No live cams from Independence Square seem to be functioning at the moment. Maybe on a medium other than youtube. But the fox business cam looks quiet (no sound unfortunately).

As in you experienced some of the cold war so you’re a seasoned vet at this?

https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1497768813860896770?t=IxEyapZ3YyiKrK5VJhHQ6g&s=19

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The politics of stupid.

OK, but can he sing?

Sorry, that was a little flip. But yeah, don’t remember duck and cover but I totally get the Dr. Strangelove sensibility. Also worked for the man in aerospace so been around a lot of better dead than red people. Hate to say it but also less to lose is a possible bias.

Pepperidge Farm remembers Tulsi.

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/649615636088365058

Lol at not an asset.